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  • Jambi1369
    Registered User
    • Dec 2023
    • 52

    #1

    Macro line exploded! Wtf?

    Hi. In all my years this has never happened to me nor have I seen it happen. I was out testing an RT mag and I put it down on the ground to go do something else for a minute. I hear a BOOM! Then rushing air. My macro lineIMG_4550.jpg
  • Tunaman
    Specialized AGD Tech

    • Dec 2000
    • 8643

    #2
    Originally posted by Jambi1369 View Post
    Hi. In all my years this has never happened to me nor have I seen it happen. I was out testing an RT mag and I put it down on the ground to go do something else for a minute. I hear a BOOM! Then rushing air. My macro line[ATTACH]103683[/ATTACH]
    literally exploded as if it was under unbelievable pressure. I’m thinking maybe there was a small hole in it already maybe? As this has never happened before or have I even heard of it in over 20 years.

    I posted a pic of said macro line.


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    It happens all the time. Most macro is not rated high enough for paintball. The fittings are even worse. Stainless braid is safer.
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    • alpha_q_up23
      Hug Supplier

      • Jan 2013
      • 676

      #3
      Originally posted by Jambi1369 View Post
      literally exploded as if it was under unbelievable pressure.
      Ever see a tire blow out? Macro line holds(depending on the psi you're running) around 20 times(if not more) the psi in a tire.

      Now put it into perspective, that tank you have under your arm all day is under approximately another 5.5 times that pressure the macro line is under.

      What I'm getting at is macro line is under an unbelievable amount of pressure, and that's the risk we take playing with our builds and why fields make us sign waivers. I've had markers blow macro lines a handful of times and it's not fun when it happens, specifically if you have it in your hand or worse if it blows in game when you're aiming and it's next to your head.

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      • Nobody
        Nobody's Perfect
        • Oct 2001
        • 3384

        #4
        Originally posted by Jambi1369 View Post
        Hi. In all my years this has never happened to me nor have I seen it happen. I was out testing an RT mag and I put it down on the ground to go do something else for a minute. I hear a BOOM! Then rushing air. My macro line[ATTACH]103683[/ATTACH]
        literally exploded as if it was under unbelievable pressure. I’m thinking maybe there was a small hole in it already maybe? As this has never happened before or have I even heard of it in over 20 years.

        I posted a pic of said macro line.


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        What was the pressure rating of the macroline? Most are 300psi to maybe 600psi. Depends on who and where you get it. Also, if you have a HPA tank pushing 1000+psi thrn the macro line is going to burst. It is a preventative measure, the weakest link for your protection.

        Also, as things age, things like macroline will weaken. Would you trust a mask lense that was 20 years old? How about a HPA tank that was never taken care of?

        Replace the old line with some 800psi rated stuff.

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        • Jambi1369
          Registered User
          • Dec 2023
          • 52

          #5
          Originally posted by alpha_q_up23 View Post
          Ever see a tire blow out? Macro line holds(depending on the psi you're running) around 20 times(if not more) the psi in a tire.

          Now put it into perspective, that tank you have under your arm all day is under approximately another 5.5 times that pressure the macro line is under.

          What I'm getting at is macro line is under an unbelievable amount of pressure, and that's the risk we take playing with our builds and why fields make us sign waivers. I've had markers blow macro lines a handful of times and it's not fun when it happens, specifically if you have it in your hand or worse if it blows in game when you're aiming and it's next to your head.

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          • Jambi1369
            Registered User
            • Dec 2023
            • 52

            #6
            Originally posted by Nobody View Post
            What was the pressure rating of the macroline? Most are 300psi to maybe 600psi. Depends on who and where you get it. Also, if you have a HPA tank pushing 1000+psi thrn the macro line is going to burst. It is a preventative measure, the weakest link for your protection.

            Also, as things age, things like macroline will weaken. Would you trust a mask lense that was 20 years old? How about a HPA tank that was never taken care of?

            Replace the old line with some 800psi rated stuff.

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            • Jambi1369
              Registered User
              • Dec 2023
              • 52

              #7
              Originally posted by alpha_q_up23 View Post
              Ever see a tire blow out? Macro line holds(depending on the psi you're running) around 20 times(if not more) the psi in a tire.

              Now put it into perspective, that tank you have under your arm all day is under approximately another 5.5 times that pressure the macro line is under.

              What I'm getting at is macro line is under an unbelievable amount of pressure, and that's the risk we take playing with our builds and why fields make us sign waivers. I've had markers blow macro lines a handful of times and it's not fun when it happens, specifically if you have it in your hand or worse if it blows in game when you're aiming and it's next to your head.
              The tire is a good analogy. I might get steel braid as someone else said


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              • rawbutter
                Registered User
                • Feb 2007
                • 1463

                #8
                Originally posted by Jambi1369 View Post
                The tire is a good analogy. I might get steel braid as someone else said.
                Well, when a tire goes flat, most people don't give up on tires and spring for run-flats. They just get a new tire. I would treat this issue the same. You just happened to get a defective part, or somehow it got scratched or damaged in just the right way to cause a problem. The chances of it happening again are practically zero, especially now that you know about it. You'll probably be more careful with the line in the future.

                Personally I would just buy something new that's rated for paintball pressure and forget about it. No need to swap out everything for SS, unless you like that look better. It's far cheaper to stick with what you already have.

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                • vintage
                  Registered User

                  • Aug 2013
                  • 1787

                  #9
                  i have had a couple blow, it's very loud in a small building.

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                  • CFEL08
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2021
                    • 54

                    #10
                    I've had enough blow and I get irritated with the fittings. Mostly stainless braid on mine now with 90* fittings ad QDs at the valve and straight into the on/off. I just find it less of a pain than macro. Plus it's frustrating to find reliable macro in cuts greater than 12".
                    I'm sure there's plenty of stainless braid out there, but if you want one new, I use this group below. They have jacketed hose and you can get the collars shrink wrapped so it's less likely to scratch anything up if you're picky.

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                    • Loguzzzzzz
                      Practice Target

                      • Sep 2004
                      • 2121

                      #11
                      The only time I had any issues with marcoline was when my tank regulator failed. to me 2 tries and 2 lines blowing before I figured it out.
                      Still using marcoline to this day.
                      Just my $0.02.
                      ......You know you want one!!

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                      • Tunaman
                        Specialized AGD Tech

                        • Dec 2000
                        • 8643

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Loguzzzzzz View Post
                        The only time I had any issues with marcoline was when my tank regulator failed. to me 2 tries and 2 lines blowing before I figured it out.
                        Still using marcoline to this day.
                        Just my $0.02.
                        Even though the Parker Macro is what I have always used it does not have the proper rating but it is the best line in my opinion. The Parker Black is the only one I am aware of that is UV stable. Leaving your gun in the sun or hot car in the sun can do bad things to cheap macro.
                        Email me for low prices on ALL AGD Products and more. [email protected]
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                        • c sherer
                          Registered User
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 129

                          #13
                          I've been on the hunt for good macro. While I've used the stuff I have for years with few problems, I do not know where I got it or its ratings so when others ask for macro, I really don't know what to tell them.
                          Luke I believe has "the good stuff" - Parker Paraflex. BUT...I went to my local Parker store and the staff could only find two possible candidates:
                          NB-4-062
                          This is nylon Paraflex with a 500psi working pressure and 2000psi burst.
                          OR
                          NBR-4-050
                          which is also Paraflex but with a 625psi working pressure and a 2500psi burst.
                          They could NOT find anything with a higher working pressure that is still 1/4 inch diameter tubing.

                          I put it to the community to help determine if what we all have been using over the years has been one of these products or if there really IS a 1/4 inch tubing that has a working pressure of 1000psi?
                          And if this does exist - what is the product number and where do you source it?

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                          • luke
                            lukescustoms.com

                            • Jan 2001
                            • 8211

                            #14
                            Originally posted by c sherer View Post
                            Luke I believe has "the good stuff" - Parker Paraflex.
                            Not a Parker product unless they rebrand it, but I sell macroline with a working pressure of 1000 psi and a burst pressure of 3000 psi both measured at 70*F

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