My friend's Spyder won't shoot or cock right...please help

[MikeCouves]

My friend has a red Spyder Shutter and it won't cock or shoot properly.

I stripped it down and looked at the vertical adapter with LP chamber, and saw that the 2 orings that are supposed to be the same weren't. It looked like one of them was a tank oring. Would this be the cause of the problem? Also what will the little washer between the thumb velocity adjuster and the striker spring guide do? Because mine is missing.

I can pull the bolt back, but when I pull the trigger the shot isn't right, it's almost like it's not discharging that much air. Then it doesn't cock back at all, it doesn't sputter or leak it just doesn't cock.


Thanks alot for your help!

Lol that should teach him to get a mag.

[ramsee1]

The orings won't stop you from getting an air supply. That little washer I believe is a guide so when you set the velocity it pushes on the spring. Make sure you have the velocity turned up enough so the marker can recock. If that doesn't work, try the Kingmanusa.com boards, I am sure they can help you.

[MikeCouves]

Yeah I posted there too, just seeing if anyone here knew anything.

[spliff]

The shutter has a regulator on it. Make sure the regulator is putting out enough pressure to operate the gun. The shutter needs 750-850 psi to cycle correctly. The adjustment screw for the stock regulator is to the right of the gauge.

[MikeCouves]

Okay, does that need to be in or out? (The reg screw)

[RATM]

First of all clean and oil it. Have you tried the tank on a different gun? Make sure it's not empty. Turn up the pressure on the reg if its set low.

[MikeCouves]

Yeah well I used to own a Shutter and that little reg screw did nothing for me. I am going to oil it and grease whatever is needed.

[nastymag]

just had this proplems with my sisters spyder 2000. get a washer for the spring or get a tighter spring. the spring isnt... the hammer isnt hitting hard enough.

sheeesh you guys this is a simple one.


into more detail ... the spring is falling into the velocity adujester ... because the little rod goes right inot the middle of the spring. put a washer to stop it from sliping in or get a much stifer spring.

[MikeCouves]

Well actually the spring can't fall into the velocity adjuster because of the striker spring guide. The washer was inbetween it and the pin of the thumb velocuty adjuster. I have owned a Shutter too.

[fenris69]

well

if it weren't for the fact im sure youd have figured this out...id say the bolt was in upside down

[MikeCouves]

Well you can't put the bolt in upside down because the pin on the bolt sticks out and won't let it.

[fenris69]

hm

what bout the mainspring? that pretty much controls how hard the hammers hitting the valve doesnt it?

[MikeCouves]

Is the mainspring the long one from that goes into the back of the hammer back to the velocity adjuster.

[fenris69]

yup

yup, your saying when it shoots it sounds like there isnt enough pressure to be cocking the marker? could be that then... oh. whats this bout missing washer in there? hm. if it added to spring tension at all that could do it. try taking off the reg yet? just screw a bottle in there directly see what happens. er...unless you need a vertical adapter.

[MikeCouves]

Yeah, god it's a Spyder, it could be anything.