Prove to me how your mags are better than my M98 custom

[MikeCouves]

Well I was kinda cranky when I posted that.

M98's are great for rentals and entry to amateur players. They are tuff, easy to maintain, and have some cool upgrades.

Mags are more of a ROF thing. You don't buy a mag to upgrade it, you buy a mag to use it, and rely on it.

Let's all agree, they are both nice . Well that settles that...

[Quiet]

First off I've got a mag and a tippy, the tippy is my back up. They are the two most reliable markers in the business in my experience.

The mag is my primary marker for the following reasons
I like the feel better
I can play tighter (because it is smaller)
It has to be one of the best markers for snap shooting nothing else I've shot is even close
It is more consistent
Higher rate of fire
Less recoil
More versatile, I can do more things better with it
Easy to field strip

[BTAutoMag]

wow this thread is still alive. i thought that the "Mag People" had proved their point.

[MikeCouves]

Yeah there's so many points to consider...

[drx975]

I have owned both guns. Here is my opinion on both. (note: the good/bad parts are not a comparison)

M98---the good:
1.***reliable***
2.pretty good with co2
3.weighted evenly
4.good trigger, under 3lb pull, but also short. (in comparison to long soft spyder trigger pulls)

M98---the bad:
1.massive recoil
2.loud, yes very loud.
3.long something like 19 inches with 8.5" barrel
4.takes long to field strip
5.can't use hpa out of box
6.stock barrel worst ever

Mag---the good:
1.***reliable***
2.light recoil
3.quiet
4.ROF pretty high stock
5.small and easy to snapshoot with, much easier than any gun I have used
6.efficient with air--800 shots out of 47ci 3k psi
7.absolutely great stock, even barrel is good (not best)
8.powerfeed
9.can be throw in water when pressurized, and shot under water to clean easily

Mag---the bad:
1.stock frame can be hard to fire the full potential ROF of the gun
2.not too many upgrades
3.doesn't come with necessary things like hoses and foregrips but not many guns do

And thats what i think. I just really cant think of that many bad things about a mag. Well I tried.

[PigSweat]

You guys all seem to ne mixing both woods and speedball. For example: loudness, who cares how loud your gun is in speedball? Tightness, if you are playing woods, you may (as I do) prefer the more rifle-like feel of the 98.

and drx975:

1.) You CAN use HPA right out of the box on a 98
2.) the stock barrel on a 98 sucks, but it is better than that POS you get with 68 automags, at least it has SOME porting

[drx975]

Yeah your right you can...I didnt realize that at the time. Anyway, no, the m98 stock barrel is the worst out there. By far. Look down the inside and tell me what you see--lines. There isnt even a freaking finish on the barrel. They say its "micro-honed" but it is far from it. Now about the speedball and woods thing. Any gun that is small and light is very easy to handle, thus easier to shoot and aim, etc. A small gun may not seem necessary in woods, but it is. When you are crawling around or sneaking you need a small gun to carry with you. Also, behind a narrow tree, your gonna need the smaller gun in order to shoot around the tree easier, while keeping your body safe. Quietness may not seem as big of an issue in speedball, but I think its necessary for a gun to be quiet, at least to the point of a mag's quietness. Why? Because when you are down behind a bunker, and the enemy with an m98 moves to a bunker on the left tapeline and starts shooting at a teammate of yours, you can immediately tell where the enemy just moved to (still crouching behind your bunker) because the m98 is so loud. This has happened to me, my friend with a c98 moved and I could easily tell where he moved to, without having to get up--I just waited for him to shoot. So to a certain point a gun needs to be quiet.

just my opinion

btw the Mag stock barrel is actually pretty damn good, I have compared it so I'm not just making a general statement

[PigSweat]

Well, I still disagree with the need for a small gun in woods, I always take my tippmann over my mag for woods.

And I too have compared both the 'mag and tippmann barrels. I prefer the 98 barrel, but hey, to each his own.

[joeyjoe367]

'Mags aren't GREAT with Co2... that's the only thing I can think of that hasn't really been covered so far..

by "not so great" i mean, you can't use the mag to it's full potential.

Big points for mag vs. m98:

-Integrated Regulator
-No external moving parts
-compactness
-Low recoil

I think those are the most important advantages the mag has over the m98

[BTAutoMag]

Originally posted by joeyjoe367
'Mags aren't GREAT with Co2...

i resent that comment. i get +-2 fps on co2

[zach724]

mag v. 98

Just shoot a mag. If its for you, you'll know instantly. I once owned a 98 and loved it but the second i shot a mag i was in heaven.

[FatMan]

Who says its better?

hey,

if you like your M98 and don't feel that you need an upgrade, stick with it! what really matters is not what WE think but what YOU think.

if you feel like you want to get a better gun for some reason, then try out a few of them. don't make a decision on just one try - not all guns of the same brand are set up as well or maintained as well. try some different markers, see which ones do best for you, and fit your budget.

here you will find a lot of guys who have been through this and found the Mag to be a great combination of looks, cost, accuracy, reliability, feel, and performance. you can find other groups that ended up preferring something else.

personnally I like the look and feel of a Mag, I like the consistency, accuracy, and efficiency. I enjoy shooting my mag better than the blow-back markers I've owned and used. To top it off the price fit my budget. Your mileage may vary!

FatMan

[Blurry]

Hmm yep thats a hit

Well folks all i gotta say is i had a tricked rainmaker for ages yes it was brasseagle but i never broke a ball in it for 2 and a half years. I sold my rainmaker to purchase my minimag. Mags are great no worries same with tippmanns. tippmanns are just a poormans mag in my opinion. Mags are just a more tourney level tippy. I own both i just love my tippy when i want to mess with it. I have totally reshaped the body and lightened it and all the goodies. She runs great but my mag is just my sexy machine u just cant beat a mag.

Folks whatever u wanna shoot and can afford get it love it like it keep it.

I wanna see a pic of this so called plastic tippy.

[WonTon]

Originally posted by MrMag
ok here it goes. the model98 is a lot bigger than any mag. the m98 is designed for outdoor fields, i would not suggest using one indoors. the m98 is made out of plastic, and is not nearly as upgradable as a mag.

but if that doesnt convince u, go to a field doesnt matter what type, and play a round w/ a mag and another w/ a m98 trust me u will be able to notice the difference

Originally posted by MrMag
let me correct myself......some m98s r made of plastic

Originally posted by MrMag
my friend has 6 m98s and 3 r plastic

I'm sorry to bring up a long gone thread, but I just wanted to ask everyone if they read the same thing i did here?!

If this guy is REALLY saying that some 98's are plastic, he should be beaten with one for trying to fill people's heads with junk (plastic junk, at that)...

No 98 was ever... EVER... made of plastic, polycarbonate, fiberglass, or anything like that...

[PyRo]

you cannot use a z-grip on a M98