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I am considering an E-Mag but I don't like high risers. Can anyone tell me if the E-Mag is available with a low riser. And if not why they are not available?
Getting a mag with a vertical feed actually isn't a really helpful. Since the mag is a high pressure marker it tends to have a strong blow back. With the vertical feed you do get less force for the change of dirction in the elbow and help from gravity. The blow back is so much more powerfull. It is best to get a power feed one. Plus you also don't have to worry about trying to find a special vertical feed barrel. In a tight bunker it can be an advantave to have a power feed that puts the hopper more in to the center of your body. This can be a great thing if you play up front all the time. That is what I have to say.
Originally posted by Smiles2480 Getting a mag with a vertical feed actually isn't a really helpful. Since the mag is a high pressure marker it tends to have a strong blow back.
Actually, the blowback in the mag is a problem because the bolt cycles so fast. The bolt returns to the open position before the paintball has completely exited the barrel. Some of the pressure behind the ball is released back up the feed tube. This blowback and it causes the ball stack to be pushed up preventing a fast feed. The powerfeed uses the blowback gas to rebound the ball into the breach, effectively increasing the feed rate.
Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.
What would you consider high pressure? A Spyder or something close to that, that runs at around 800 psi? Well a mag is not high pressure, operates at around 400psi give or take a few psi. Mags aren't high pressure but arent very low either...about mid range...
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Smiles2480...
"Getting a mag with a vertical feed actually isn't a really helpful."
--Some of us would argue vertical feeds aren't helpful at all on ANY gun.
"Since the mag is a high pressure marker it tends to have a strong blow back."
--My typhoon runs at 600 psi, and most of my other guns run at tank pressure. They don't have blowback. Tom has shown it time and time again, regardless of "input" or "operating" pressure, the psi that hits the ball rarely goes over 100 psi in ANY functioning paintgun.
"With the vertical feed you do get less force for the change of dirction in the elbow and help from gravity."
--Aha. Don't have a smartaleck remark to this right now.
"The blow back is so much more powerfull."
--I've seen lowrise vertical feed mags perform flawlessly, no blowback.
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I HAD a vertical body on mny Emag, so I can speak with at least a bit or authority on this topic.
1. You can get a low-rise on an Emag because the (stock) highrise is welded on! In order to lower it, you would have to take it to a metal fabrication/machine shop and have the feed tube shortened. Not a big deal, though, if that's what you want. I would not personally recommend it, because you will most likely chop due to decreased number or balls in the stack.
2. My Bushmaster has more blowback than my Emag, but it does not bother me on either gun. (well, I do have a Warp on the Emag). However, even when I had the vertical body on the Emag, I had NO problems with blowback. Excessive blowback on Mags can happen if it the right components are not used, but no more so than on any other gun.
Make sure that you get a hopper that will keep up with the gun, otherwise you may get chops, which you may then erroneously attribute to blowback.
i do agree with Fasst. but in the case of TheMagMan
having no problems i would have to attribute this to the warp feed. seems that the warp offers enough resistance to lessen the blowback, by keeping the balls from bobbling. it is always pushing one in with minimal resistance. i had no luck on my vert feed at high rates of fire with my x-board revvy or halo. it seems as these are still feeding through gravity whereas the warp actually pushes them in.
i will say that after hooking my warp up to my warp body i have been able to shoot even the crappiest paint without breaks. the same stuff i couldnt even shoot through a powerfeed with x-board revvy. the warp actually provides enough force to load without fail. course this is another thread altogether......
I used just a 12v revy w/x-board last sunday and had no problems still. I just got my new Halo on Monday and shot 400 rounds with no problems either. The warp may help some but I don't need it to prevent blow back because I don't have a problem with it.
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