My RT pro Has NO Sweet Spot

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  • Merlin
    Registered User
    • Oct 2000
    • 70

    #1

    My RT pro Has NO Sweet Spot

    I have an RT pro, with 68 flatline nitro input pressure @850

    Benchy 45 dbl trigger frame. Fires great but I can't get the trigger to "bounce" off my trigger finger, can't find the sweet spot on the RT trigger. I have tried turning the input pressure up to @900-950 psi.. still no sweet spot.
    Any suggestions , thought maybe an on-off "o" ring was bad, replaced them still no sweet spot.. thanks for looking.

    keith
  • Gunga
    Former AGD Factory Tech
    • May 2001
    • 1497

    #2
    Sounds like you're trying to get your RT Pro to go full auto. Well...sounds like your gun is working just fine. If you can go full auto on your RT Pro, then something's wrong with your gun. You're not supposed to be able to go full auto. :)

    I know how to get your gun to go full auto, as do many others here on AO, but I'm not gonna tell you how to. You'll just end up having to buy a new bolt and sear really really soon after your gun starts going full auto. :)

    Full auto on an RT/RT Pro is a malfunction, not a feature. Though it does still sound real cool.

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    • ramsee1
      SouthPaw Extraordanaire
      • Mar 2002
      • 145

      #3
      Maybe I read it wrong, but it sounds like he can't find the right amount of reactiveness in the trigger. I don't know if that necessarily constitutes wanting to go full auto. My question would be have you shot another RT pro that is to your liking and you think this one is different?
      I've come to chew bubble gum and kick @ss... And I'm all out of bubble gum.

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      • JEDI
        We beat pump players
        • Jan 2002
        • 1859

        #4
        There is no sweet spot

        The RT has no sweet spot. It simply kicks the trigger back harder than it takes to pull it (2 lbs). Giving the gun a tremendously fast trigger. the faster you can pull it the faster it kicks. It wont full auto, "sweet spot"
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        • Merlin
          Registered User
          • Oct 2000
          • 70

          #5
          re-activeness... that is the word

          I have shot a few rt's that seems to bounce and has a high rate of rapid fire, due to trigger bounce.

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          • TransMan
            Man Beast!!!
            • Apr 2002
            • 3152

            #6
            the RT does have a sweet spot were u can rip off about 5 balls very fast im thinking your problem is the benchy u can get an intelli that is much easier to find the sweet spot with

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            • ramsee1
              SouthPaw Extraordanaire
              • Mar 2002
              • 145

              #7
              Can someone define "sweet spot" for me?
              I've come to chew bubble gum and kick @ss... And I'm all out of bubble gum.

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              • Xzion
                Official Dragon of AO
                • Jan 2001
                • 1617

                #8
                ramsee1; the 'sweet spot' or putting the gun into 'run away mode' as its also called, is usually referred to the point in the trigger pull where gun will cycle, but the reactive trigger bounces off your finger to produce a high rate of fire from the trigger bouncing off your finger as you hold it at this sweet spot, using the reactive trigger to return the trigger, and your finger to prevent it from going past the fire point, in other words, its like a mechanical full auto mode. Unfortunatly, by using this malfunction, it eats bolts and sears quickly, seeing as it isnt intended to function like that.

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                • ramsee1
                  SouthPaw Extraordanaire
                  • Mar 2002
                  • 145

                  #9
                  Oh, I got ya. That is an interesting phenomenon indeed.
                  I've come to chew bubble gum and kick @ss... And I'm all out of bubble gum.

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                  • Xzion
                    Official Dragon of AO
                    • Jan 2001
                    • 1617

                    #10
                    the sweet spot and run away mode are virtually the same thing. both are when the trigger is bouncing off your finger without you actually pulling it for each shot. Take a look at your sear, if the tip that catches your bolt is worn, or the edge on the bolt that the sear catches is worn, its from you running the sweet spot.

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                    • ramsee1
                      SouthPaw Extraordanaire
                      • Mar 2002
                      • 145

                      #11
                      Does the emag work another way that when you go full auto, the components don't get worn down?
                      I've come to chew bubble gum and kick @ss... And I'm all out of bubble gum.

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                      • Army
                        Moderator of DOOOOOOOOMMM!

                        • Oct 2000
                        • 5785

                        #12
                        The Emag in MANUAL mode is nothing more than a RT anyway, it will shoot the same way as a regular RT, including sweet-spotting.

                        In HYBRID mode, or anytime the batteries are energised, the solenoid is doing the sear pull, not you. However the valve is still kicking the trigger back RT style (next to nothing trigger pull with 8#s of kick), making it much easier to sweet-spot and get that 20bps. Also, in hybrid mode, since the solenoid will not fire until it has returned completely, it is very rare to short-stroke, since the bolt has plenty of time to fully reset as it waits for the solenoid.

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                        • JEDI
                          We beat pump players
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 1859

                          #13
                          I really dont think there's a sweet spot.

                          I called tech help and asked them this exact question. They told me no sweet spot or any amount of full auto. I own the gun, and I've been through plenty of air sitting around trying to fan the trigger. Even up to 1200 psi, it didnt happen. I wont argue with any one that says they've done it, but I doubt it. Thats a pretty cool feature, and if AGD techs say it wont do it, I believe them.
                          Its probably a bad thing if your gun does this often. It doesn't make sense. You're going to short stroke the trigger if you dont fully cycle it. Try pulling your trigger half way looking for the sweet spot, and you'll short stroke it.
                          WE ARE DEADCELL, AND WE WILL RUN THROUGH YOU

                          Dayspring - "We've had Clare at Shatnerball." "I'm confident that she can take 20 guys."

                          "I'd trade my cocker for some steady pu**y"

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                          • Panzerr
                            a stockaholic
                            • Sep 2001
                            • 683

                            #14
                            there is a sweet spot

                            If you've got a double trigger and a properly tuned RT, you can hit a spot on the trigger that will allow you to fire very, very fast. It's not full auto, because you still have to move your finger (ever so slightly).

                            Merlin-what you need is a different length on/off pin. Your best bet is to send it in to AGD and ask for a custom lenght on/off pin. Tell them it's not reactive enough.
                            sixty-six.

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                            • Butterfingers
                              PhD in Automagology
                              • Jan 2001
                              • 2263

                              #15
                              Well I know I won't tell you cause I don't want the gun coming back to me after you wear out your bolt.

                              There *is* a sweetspot but Im gonna tell you its not supposed to be there.
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