Co2 for an AutoMag?

[Aggression]

I am buying my friends AutoMag Classic off of him for $300. Which is a good deal because I get 2 barrels, a 16' Ice Cold, and another one, also and instructions video incase it breaks, and a lot of spare parts. The gun already has everything I need to play including a Double trigger frame and a handle. But one thing I dont have is Nitro. He said I could use Co2 on it as long as its hooked up by remote. And I use a remote. And I read in the AutoMag manual and they said I could use Co2 but only with a remote. My friend and the manual said if I use direct Co2, it will damage the gun, like all active O-rings in side. I use 2 20 ounce Co2 Catalina style tanks and a coiled remote. So I want to know if all of you interest readers think it's a good idea to use my Mag with Co2 but on a remote. Thanks.

[paintbattler]

well..i suggest if u HAVE to use co2 to have an expansion chamber and remote...and when u carry your gun, point it up because liquid c02 will get in there and freeze everyything up. when it freezes up it wont shoot and u have to unhook ur co2 for a while and get the valve warm.

[InvisibleBill]

co2 works if you are in warm weather, not not well. I live i a cold winter/hot summer area, which means not mag in winter (sniff), so I bought a nitro tank, and it was not to pricey (@pbgear.com), so you might wanna think about getting hpa/nitro (you can fill nitro tanks with a scuba tank, so you can be more self reliant, thats what I am doing)

[mykroft]

CO2 is fine with a Remote. If you add a expansion chamber or Palmer Stabilizer reg, and use an anti-siphon tank, on gun is fine as well. Angled bottomlines are also recomended for On-gun CO2 use.

[DA SKUNK]

alright so i can put a x-chamber on a mag-- i heard that regs restrict the airflow and was worried that they may have the same problem with x chambers; if that is a myth this is the setup im thinking of getting if anyone cares:

-Minimag (automag?)
-Revvy (Richochet?) + elbow
-Proteam Expansion Chamber
-Coil Remote
-Decent Size Co2 Tank
-10" armson pro

[magstevo]

Get rid of that Co2 now!!!!! It is horrible on Mags....

[Vegeta]

Co2 IS NOT BAD FOR YOUR MAG.

LIQUID CO2 is. see the gas flowing through the valve is just like nitrogen. but the liquid seaps into and around Orings. this is bad. I suggest gettign an expansion chamber with a angeled ASA. what i mean by angled ASA is that the asa does not mount at a complete verticle angle. It tips down a little bit. This means that the liquid will settle in the butt end of the tank and not go up into your gasline. I play in cosiderabbly hot weather, and just use a drop forward with a marco line to the valve with co2. I shoot slow.. do not even require a revvy. Never have had a valve freeze on me.

[Aggression]

What kind of nitro should I get? (brand name and size)

[InvisibleBill]

PMI, Air America Melee, and ACI are good tanks, and they're not too expensive if you stay in the steel tanks. When you get fiber wrapped, the price is usually above $190. Fiber wrapped tanks are lighter, but cost more. Personally, weight doesn't matter if it is only one extra pound, but some people are picky. I have a Melee, which I like, it is 3000 68 cubic inch steel tank. The size of the tank should be choosen for how you plan on playing (47-68 ci for the people who don't like shooting, 68+ ci for the people who like to shoot alot). I got my tank @ pbgear.com for $120 which was the main reason I got it (and the Melee has a fast recharge rate too).

[Aggression]

I found a Nitro Tank that was 114ci 3000psi and the company was crossfire. for $190. Is that a good deal?

[InvisibleBill]

yeah, sounds good to me. I checked with a friend and he said crossfire fixed the flaws in their reg, so they are better tanks now. If you have the money, and you like the tank, get it. 114 ci tanks are long though, but you get a lot of shots, so it worth the few extra inches.

[magstevo]

Is the tank a set or adjustable. If it is set, get the 850psi. BTW, I was saying performance from the Co2 is bad. I have been running Co2 for a while now. I just don't like the squirliness of Co2 compared to N2.

[Snakebite78]

I would suggest the 68 or 88 45 Crossfire

If you are looking at the 114 3k Crossfire from pbgear, I would suggest going with either the 68 or 88 45 tanks. You will get about the same number of shots with a 68 45 as a 114 3k, you'll get less with the 68, but not by much. Also, the 68 is much smaller, and only 200, 10 bucks more than the 114. I have the 68 45 HP, 850 psi output, and I'd get that, not the 450 psi output, because if you ever go retro, you'll want the output higher.

[mykroft]

I'd go with the 68/45 setup as well, 114ci tanks are HUGE( As long as a standard 88, and as thick as a fatty 88) as well as heavy. Crossfire and PMI are the best for Preset tanks. Avoid 32 Degrees, and Nitroduck presets have occasionally been problematic (Nitroduck adjustables are quite good though)

InvisibleBill: There never was a problem with Crossfire regs.

Double regging with CO2 on a Mag is fine as long as you use a good reg, Palmer Stabilizer or Max-Flo Inline are your best bet for running CO2 on a Mag, X-Chambers are not as good at keeping liquid out, Remote are good at keeping liquid out, but are unwieldy.

[Aggression]

Ok, tell me if I should get this tank. It's a Crossfire 88ci 4500psi Fixed Nitrogen System. For the 68ci, it said I would get around 650 shots per fill and that isnt much. 88ci will give me more shots but its longer. Do you think I should get it? Will that length get in the way? It's $190.