Hyperframe/Level 10

[GT]

hey guys I am very intrested in this post so please keep posting if you get ur lvl 10's w/ hyper's up and running.

Hint Hint: This would make a good sticky.

[rudy]

i am tired from a day of play. I would need more exact descriptions of what exactly is heard and seen with the guns that dotn work.

but here is my setup for some thought.

Minimag with retro valve and level 10, 3 shims 1 day 2 shims the next 2 worked better. one carrier tighter then recomended by the instructions.
stock on off, long onoff pin supplied by centerflag, and quad oring to reduce friction on the on off.
Keep the batteries new and make sure they are good.
I shot today and sunday with no problems,

[Doobie]

and quad oring to reduce friction on the on off.

What's a quad o-ring?

[rudy]

http://store.airgun.com/acb/showdetl.cfm?&DID=17&Product_ID=233&CATID=6

[NPP]

Has anyone tried to use a hyper, RT Valve and L10 and not experienced any problems?

Would there be any difference in using a standard valve with an RT On/Off assembly as opposed to an RT valve and On/Off assembly?

With the same On/Off assembly in each valve, would the on/off pin be any harder to move with the sear?

[paintballrulzs]

NPP- If you look around there are a bunch of people who are using an rt/hyperframe combo. It seems they don't have any problems. The thing i see is how can the rt valve have no problems and the classic have problems. This may be dumb, but before you added level 10 is shoot perfectly correct?

[NPP]

Always shot perfectly, the occasional break hence the change to level 10, nothing major but what the hell!

It may just be the combination hyper/L10/Standard Valve I don't know, I've tried every combination of on/off. Last resort is to see if anyone has this combination with an RT valve, if there's no problems I shall switch. If not I'll go to an intelliframe.

Who knows the Hyper may be up for sale!!! which I will hate as the frame shoots so fast!

[paintballrulzs]

Before you do anything i would try to get someone to lend your their classic valve. Try level 10/hyperframe combo with that. I would also try to use YOUR particular setup with someones Rt and level 10. That way you can narrow down where your problem is. I think rudy has a hyperframed/RT/LEVEL 10 mag.

[NPP]

I have the classic valve, this is the problem!

I need to know if anyone has experienced the same problem with an RT

[paintballrulzs]

Ya i understand what your problem is. So far you are the only one who has had a problem (and spoke of it) with a level 10 hyperframe combo. I know some people have an rt/hyperframe/level 10 and so far no problems have been reported.

[NPP]

Thanks! At last I might be getting to the bottom of the problem.

Looks like an RT upgrade!

I'm intrigued to know if anyone else has the same problem which might then rule out anyone being able to use the hyper/standard valve/L10 combination or anyone that has had problems with an RT setup.

[paintballrulzs]

Yes but how could the valve affect it working or not? That doesn't exactly make any sense.

[NPP]

I think it is down to how much pressure is on or around the on/off valve. The higher the pressure the harder the solenoid would have to hit the sear. With the L10 the velocity has to be dialed up higher therefore more pressure around the on/off valve. This must be affected by which valve you are using.

[paintballrulzs]

O No I don't wanna get rid of my frame, but i don't have 200 bucks for an rt valve. I wonder if any of the ans or any of the aftermarket valves will work?

[paintballrulzs]

Did you get it working?