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  • 'Mag
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    LED in Hyperframe

    I want to install an LED on the Hyperframe so that it will blink on every shot (like an Impulse). I think that I could just hook into the soleniod, so whenever the soleniod is actuated the light will blink. I don't think that I can get the soleniod wires out of the plug though. Since all of the wires are glued, or whatever, in the plug. Does any one know how to get just the last two wires out so I could add two more into the same spots? If that won't work then I think I'd have to make the connection in the middle of the wire going to the soleniod.

    I want to know if this would cause any problems with getting enough power to actuate the sear? Like would adding the light into the wire going to the soleniod cause too much resistance? I don't really know anything about electronics, so if this would cause major problems then I'm not even going to attempt it. But if it should work then I'll probably do it, and then I'll have to adjust the service mode settings so that there's a little more power going to the soleniod.
    Last edited by Guest; 07-13-2002, 06:16 PM.
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    • 314159
      Registered User
      • Nov 2001
      • 555
      #2
      you could replace the diode that protects the fet or the bjt that switches on the solenoid. confused? well you are looking for a part, probaly a little black cylinder or block with a white stripe on one end. if you follow the paths on the board. one lead of the diode will go to one lead of the solenoid, and the other lead of the diode, will go to the other lead of the solenoid.

      if you know a little about electronics, you may be wondering why this diode is installed so it is not have current flowing through it because it is not on? it is because when the solenoid turns off, it creates an electric pulse opisite of that it was charged with. and this is what the diode is in place to disipate.

      once you find the diode, you can replace it with a led, just make shure of it's orientation (lead by flat side goes to same conection of the diode that has a stripe on it). the most beautiful thing about this is that, IT DOES NOT DRAW ANY MORE POWER FROM THR CIRCUIT.
      As society and the problems that face it become more and more complex and machines become more and more intelligent, people will let machines make more of their decisions for them, simply because machine-made decisions will bring better results than man-made ones. Eventually a stage may be reached at which the decisions necessary to keep the system running will be so complex that human beings will be incapable of making them intelligently. At that stage the machines will be in effective control. People won't be able to just turn the machines off, because they will be so dependent on them that turning them off would amount to suicide

      sometimes I just freaking hate people. which means the next day I will love them for the sake of balance, but right now I will just concentrate on the hating. Hate hate hate. Blaaaarg! ;)

      turborev - with ai like this, if it controlled any more than a paddle, it would kill you and everyone you care about. ;)

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        • 'Mag
          #3
          This sounds very good, but I don't really know anything about electronics at all. Do you think you could put up some pictures with a little bit of instructions to go with.

          Also, would this make the light blink even if the soleniod is not pushing on anything? Because if I'm not mistaken the soleniod doesn't draw the same battery power when it doesn't actually push anything.
          Last edited by Guest; 07-13-2002, 06:17 PM.

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            • 314159
              Registered User
              • Nov 2001
              • 555
              #4
              Originally posted by 'Mag
              This sounds very good, but I don't really know anything about electronics at all. Do you think you could put up some pictures with a little bit of instructions to go with.
              i could if i had a hyperframe

              Originally posted by 'Mag
              Also, would this make the light blink even if the soleniod is not pushing on anything? Because if I'm not mistaken the soleniod doesn't draw the same battery power when it doesn't actually push anything.
              the same amount of power goes through the solenoid, it is just a long piece of wire, wraped around a couple times, with a chunk of metal in the center of it.

              the led will blink once after the solenoid kicks in, after every trigger pull
              As society and the problems that face it become more and more complex and machines become more and more intelligent, people will let machines make more of their decisions for them, simply because machine-made decisions will bring better results than man-made ones. Eventually a stage may be reached at which the decisions necessary to keep the system running will be so complex that human beings will be incapable of making them intelligently. At that stage the machines will be in effective control. People won't be able to just turn the machines off, because they will be so dependent on them that turning them off would amount to suicide

              sometimes I just freaking hate people. which means the next day I will love them for the sake of balance, but right now I will just concentrate on the hating. Hate hate hate. Blaaaarg! ;)

              turborev - with ai like this, if it controlled any more than a paddle, it would kill you and everyone you care about. ;)

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                • 314159
                  Registered User
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 555
                  #5
                  i just rembered in one of my classes a while back when we were talking about coils.

                  someone asked how they know which way to put the diode in...

                  the teacher replied, the easy way is to just make shure you have 2 diodes on you, put one in across the coil, if it burns up, put the 2nd one in the opisite way.

                  mmm, smell of burning germanimum and silicoln.....
                  As society and the problems that face it become more and more complex and machines become more and more intelligent, people will let machines make more of their decisions for them, simply because machine-made decisions will bring better results than man-made ones. Eventually a stage may be reached at which the decisions necessary to keep the system running will be so complex that human beings will be incapable of making them intelligently. At that stage the machines will be in effective control. People won't be able to just turn the machines off, because they will be so dependent on them that turning them off would amount to suicide

                  sometimes I just freaking hate people. which means the next day I will love them for the sake of balance, but right now I will just concentrate on the hating. Hate hate hate. Blaaaarg! ;)

                  turborev - with ai like this, if it controlled any more than a paddle, it would kill you and everyone you care about. ;)

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                    • 'Mag
                      #6
                      If I put up a pic of the internals of a Hyperframe, could you show me waht's the diode and how I'd go about replacing it with an LED?

                      P.S. I don't think that the soleniod could be using as much power when it's not pushing anything, because in the last day I've pulled the trigger ~35,000 times. The battery is only supposed to last for ~15,000. Probably about 34,000 of the trigger pulls had nothing pushing against the soleniod. Maybe I'm just getting amazing battery life, lol.
                      Last edited by Guest; 07-13-2002, 06:17 PM.

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                        • 314159
                          Registered User
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 555
                          #7
                          post a pic, and i will see what i can tell you.

                          and the solenoid takes the same amount of juice if it is pushing something or not, trust me.
                          As society and the problems that face it become more and more complex and machines become more and more intelligent, people will let machines make more of their decisions for them, simply because machine-made decisions will bring better results than man-made ones. Eventually a stage may be reached at which the decisions necessary to keep the system running will be so complex that human beings will be incapable of making them intelligently. At that stage the machines will be in effective control. People won't be able to just turn the machines off, because they will be so dependent on them that turning them off would amount to suicide

                          sometimes I just freaking hate people. which means the next day I will love them for the sake of balance, but right now I will just concentrate on the hating. Hate hate hate. Blaaaarg! ;)

                          turborev - with ai like this, if it controlled any more than a paddle, it would kill you and everyone you care about. ;)

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                            • 'Mag
                              #8


                              If you can't tell anything by that I'll try getting a pic up of my actual frame.
                              Last edited by Guest; 07-13-2002, 06:18 PM.

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                                • 314159
                                  Registered User
                                  • Nov 2001
                                  • 555
                                  #9
                                  a pic would be cool, or even a scan would probally come out nice.
                                  As society and the problems that face it become more and more complex and machines become more and more intelligent, people will let machines make more of their decisions for them, simply because machine-made decisions will bring better results than man-made ones. Eventually a stage may be reached at which the decisions necessary to keep the system running will be so complex that human beings will be incapable of making them intelligently. At that stage the machines will be in effective control. People won't be able to just turn the machines off, because they will be so dependent on them that turning them off would amount to suicide

                                  sometimes I just freaking hate people. which means the next day I will love them for the sake of balance, but right now I will just concentrate on the hating. Hate hate hate. Blaaaarg! ;)

                                  turborev - with ai like this, if it controlled any more than a paddle, it would kill you and everyone you care about. ;)

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                                    • SIGSays
                                      USMC
                                      • Sep 2001
                                      • 3051
                                      #10
                                      i figured it out!! hook the discombobulation system to chamber to the base y axle... and then weld the nymphlydic nemphodes to the terminatewd base acid regulator... then add the psychadelic mobile vibrating unit to the pimped led and it should work...!

                                      i have no idea what that means but when you figure it out please share... i wanna do it too.... i wanna hook up a phat blue led
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                                        • athomas
                                          Of course it works-its AGD
                                          • Jan 2002
                                          • 8039
                                          #11
                                          Use the two black wires running to the solenoid. Find which is positive and which is negative. Connect the annode(+) of the LED to the positive wire. Connect the cathode(-) of the LED to a 350 ohm resistor. Connect the other end of the 350 ohm resistor to the negative wire of the solenoid.

                                          This will light the LED each time the solenoid is turned on. The extra current draw is only 20mA This is almost nothing when compared to the Amps of current draw by the solenoid.

                                          It should work fine. Have fun.
                                          Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                                            • 314159
                                              Registered User
                                              • Nov 2001
                                              • 555
                                              #12
                                              yeah that works too.

                                              you will probally need a different value of resistor because blue led's have a larger voltage drop than the average led. to put it bluntly, if you want a nice blue led, go to radioshack and ask for part #276-316 (brightest blue 5mm led they got)

                                              take 9 volts, subtract out the forward voltage drop of the led (3.7v) and you have 5.3volts. this is the number that we will use to figure out the resistance needed to get the desired current of 20mA.

                                              A=v/ohms or ohms =v/A.... so 5.3volts/.02Amps = 265 ohms. the closest vaule of resistor to this is 270 ohms. 5% carbon resistors are fine.
                                              As society and the problems that face it become more and more complex and machines become more and more intelligent, people will let machines make more of their decisions for them, simply because machine-made decisions will bring better results than man-made ones. Eventually a stage may be reached at which the decisions necessary to keep the system running will be so complex that human beings will be incapable of making them intelligently. At that stage the machines will be in effective control. People won't be able to just turn the machines off, because they will be so dependent on them that turning them off would amount to suicide

                                              sometimes I just freaking hate people. which means the next day I will love them for the sake of balance, but right now I will just concentrate on the hating. Hate hate hate. Blaaaarg! ;)

                                              turborev - with ai like this, if it controlled any more than a paddle, it would kill you and everyone you care about. ;)

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                                                • rjvemt1
                                                  NITRO-BURNIN' HYPER-MAG
                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                  • 681
                                                  #13
                                                  search for a member named 'rudy' hes doing some mad stuff with hf's.

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                                                    • 'Mag
                                                      #14
                                                      OK, I'm good and confused now. Right now I have a LED Assembly Product No. 276-084 I don't think this will work because it's 680ohm resistance.

                                                      Anyways, if I go buy that blue LED, and then get the 270ohm resistor, how will I go about hooking it up? The way athomas explained it I'd end up with soleniod wires running to LED, then to nothing???? I think I need some better instructions. If you could possibly do some illistrations, too that would help a ton. I really don't even have any idea how to figure out which wires are positive and which are negative. This seems pretty tough, I probably won't even end up doing it, unless it becomes real clear to me sometime soon.
                                                      Last edited by Guest; 07-13-2002, 06:19 PM.

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                                                        • 314159
                                                          Registered User
                                                          • Nov 2001
                                                          • 555
                                                          #15
                                                          (PLOS)----(+LED-)----(RESISTOR)-----(NLOS)


                                                          PLOS = positive lead of solenoid
                                                          NLOS = neagitive lead of solenoid

                                                          led, the negative side is the flat side (cathode)

                                                          this is the same way that the assembly is hooked up, just off of the top of my head, that is probally the 12v led lamp assembly
                                                          As society and the problems that face it become more and more complex and machines become more and more intelligent, people will let machines make more of their decisions for them, simply because machine-made decisions will bring better results than man-made ones. Eventually a stage may be reached at which the decisions necessary to keep the system running will be so complex that human beings will be incapable of making them intelligently. At that stage the machines will be in effective control. People won't be able to just turn the machines off, because they will be so dependent on them that turning them off would amount to suicide

                                                          sometimes I just freaking hate people. which means the next day I will love them for the sake of balance, but right now I will just concentrate on the hating. Hate hate hate. Blaaaarg! ;)

                                                          turborev - with ai like this, if it controlled any more than a paddle, it would kill you and everyone you care about. ;)

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