The Angel Rifle

[Hunter Killer]

DOUBLE POST

Forgive the double post. I refreshed the page and is resent to info.
HK

[Hunter Killer]

FOR MISCUE

What's up with not changing the colors of my text, when you offer the option in the pre-post section. Second, what happens your "warnings"? Let me know when you can...if it messes with the posting I'll understand. What's the reason for this...
HK

[than205]

Re: Names, Names, Names

Originally posted by Hunter Killer
what characteristics are these "markers" modeled after...what's that oh yeah a rifle. Hmmm didn't see that one coming. The very principle of your "marker" is based one of the most dangerous inventions known to man....think about that before you answer it isn't as easy as it seems.

If we wanted to perpetuate this lunacy, "Markers" more "resemble" (if you need to make that correlation) pistols. I think your more burned by the fact that you called it a rifle and in retrospect you know deep down that it's not one. Someone called you on it and you don't like to be wrong or at the least corrected.

I feel that the game of paintball more resembles tag or the all time favorite dodgeball. The intention is not to kill. The intention is to show everyone that the person has been tagged. Or better yet "Marked".

Most markers don't have stocks and to a similar proportion foregrips are vertical not horizontal. Thereby, lessening it's similarities to a rifle. On a lesser note very few barrels are actually rifled. The common belief is that rifling does nothing for the projectile.

I am speaking of the evolved form paintball that we play now. Things have changed.

[Gotcha3]

The Angel Rifle...

Man--- I thought that WDP had come out with some new marker!
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[Timmee]

I think the term "marker" first came around because of the way it was used. Originally, paintball markers were used to "mark" cattle and trees. Paintball markers were developed by the Nelson brothers (still around in the business). Hope this helps.

[Hunter Killer]

Before You Jump In

"If we wanted to perpetuate this lunacy, "Markers" more "resemble" (if you need to make that correlation) pistols. I think your more burned by the fact that you called it a rifle and in retrospect you know deep down that it's not one. Someone called you on it and you don't like to be wrong or at the least corrected." (Quote by than205)

By the way than205, you seem to "try" to start fires where there are none and instead of jumping in still waters with both feet before you test the depth is a bit childish. I thought you were an engineer, not a psychologist. Before you think about how someone might feel emotionally, make sure they are in your office laying down on a couch and your getting paid for the session, that's my thought deep down if you really want to know. This forum is for conversation and discussions, if you want to fight get married. I love to be corrected if it makes sense. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. I happen to have the fortunate experience of working on several cases which paintball "markers" were used in commission of a crime or misdemeanor. What they are labeled by law is what category they fit into. As far a rifled barrels go, they still exist if you want one. The issue isn't if things have changed, it is your matter of perception on an item. As for Timmee, I agree and knew about the orginal purpose of the forefathers to the modern paintball gun. I was and still am a Nelson fan. If it weren't for them we wouldn't be were we are right now. All of it is in good fun and good conversation. One more thing than205, when you hit someone with your "marker" what do you call it? Also how long have you been playing? Just curious no agenda.
HK

[Miscue]

/me rips out his handy dandy book of logical fallacies, but spares everyone a detailed analysis. :)

Sophistry... ack. That crap don't cut it on the LSAT... :)

Ok... bickering ends now. Otherwise, thread will be closed.

[Miscue]

Re: FOR MISCUE

Originally posted by Hunter Killer
What's up with not changing the colors of my text, when you offer the option in the pre-post section. Second, what happens your "warnings"? Let me know when you can...if it messes with the posting I'll understand. What's the reason for this...
HK

Ok, I just read this.

This thread is dead, so I don't care about cleaning it up. next time... no colors... and delete your double posts.

[Vendetta]

[Vendetta]

Whoops

Was I not suppose to post

[than205]

LOL.
Wow, you got me all figured out. Can we do tea while we discuss more of my problems?
I'm sorry I was so wrong about you. My bad.

8 or 9 years, I can't remember anymore. Your right, that really means nothing.

I do have an Armson rifled barrel on my F1. Which I used for a long time. Now it's my backup or my friends use it.

Honestly, it certainly seemed that despite numerous people trying to explain something that seems so obvious you doggedly held to the notion. I'm on the fence about the whole "marker" thing. It seems most people prefer the term "gun", but the with everyone so eager to make paintball mainstream the logical and perhap more "PC" term falls back to marker.

I really don't care what you call it. As long as everyone has fun. You just sounded like a newbie calling it a rifle and I found it somewhat funny how after that you had to have such elaborate responses to everyones comment. I guess my post was perhaps too pointed.

[BeerCitySk8brds]

Originally posted by TransMan
Hunter im going to give you a little advice ok in the future people will under stand what your talking about much better if you dont call a marker a rifle.

hahaha

I thought he was talking about a rifled barrel. o man

[Hunter Killer]

No Hard Feelings Than205

I know that your are right about having fun, which is what this sport is all about. I also understand to politcal correctness of calling it a "marker". No hard feelings, we're still friends. I just like to shake things up a bit. Just to let you know I have been playing since 1984, back in the days of the pump. Your post wasn't too pointed...it is good when you can have a good conversation with someone and not take things personal. I'm sure I will see you in other posts....take care my friend.
Hk

[fiendkuja]

hi. I like to start flames for no reason. kudos to you, fine sir. you are a gentleman and a scholar...

now with that said

a) As already stated, a paintball 'gun' isn't a firearm as it does not use a key part of that phrase, 'fire'. There is no combustion, simply a redistribution of hydrogen molecules in a bolt-valve release.

b) In 99% of the paintball industry, the barrels are not rifled for one major reason. Due to the shell consistancy of your everyday ordinary paintball, there would be mass choppage and you'd have a $500 blender as apposed to a 'leet gun'.

c) Hunter-killer, for as 'elite' as you are, I'm truely shocked your name doesn't have crazy symbols or perhaps a deviation of standard grammer with something like 'Hunta-killah', or maybe the ultimate in name-enhancing techniques, the devoid capitalization. "HuNTeRKiLlEr" would be pretty rockin', no?

toodles.

[Miscue]

Well... PB barrels aren't rifled because there is no need to do so (except for marketing purposes). You use rifling with ball ammo because if you don't, it can spin randomly at high RPMs and veer off... the rifling spins it the same way each time for sake of consistency. With a PB, you don't have significant random spin problem that could be corrected by rifling... shoot two-tone paint and look at it yourself.