Serial Numbers??'s

[angelKiller16]

i have what i know it to be, a minimag, and it's serial number is CF05240, because the numbers do not begin with "mm" does that meen this is a classic valve put on a minimag body? and can anyone tell me how old this valve is / what level it is. The power tube seems to be stuck on thier pretty well and the valve has 6 holes if that helps. thans a lot.

[codeJockey]

Minimag valves actually say 'Minimag' instead of 'Automag Classic' on the side opposite to the air input & have a 'MM' serial number. I have a CF classic valve & an MM minimag valve & they are functionally, but not cosmetically, identical...

[Omicron]

Yeah I'm pretty sure thats a classic feed mag valve on there. I used to have CF58185 and it was a 68' automag classic.

[PyRo]

The differance between a minimag and an automag is that the minimag comes with more stuff (VA, differant grips, quick disconnect, and a few other things). Functionally the valves are identical, neither will preform differantly than the other. They are interchangeable between guns. You can buy just the minimag bodies, so someone probably put one on a classic (common thing to do). Hence making it a minimag.

[angelKiller16]

thanks a lot guys, so the person i bought it from must of put the new body on it, I wonder why he put a grey body on, what a waste, for a few more dollars he could of been smart and put a black or chrome body on. I am still interested in finding out how old and what level the valve is though. i know its older because it doesn't have stars and it was too late for me to trade it in. thanks

[PyRo]

Does teh PT unscrew (not the tip, the entire thing)? If not its a level 7. I can almost gaurentee that it is a level 7, there arn't many others left out there.

[angelKiller16]

i'm trying to unscrew it and it's not budging an i cant see a crease at the base so i think that would make it a level seven. good... is a way i can tel how old it isby the numbers now?

[PyRo]

You really cannot tell, unless you find someone else with a gun with a close serial number that knows how old it is.

[athomas]

Mine is CF8098 and was purchased in April 1993. Yours is probably 1992 vintage.

Does the valve back have the same serial number? If so, it probably has been drilled by the owner or a tech shop. If the back doesn't have a matching serial number, it is probably an aftermarket back. Many of the valve backs didn't have holes that lined up with the valve fronts. This caused velocity drops during rapid shooting.

[angelKiller16]

yes, it has the same serial numbers, icannot see any rilling and i don't knotice drop-off either but then again i wouldn't know where to look for drilling. I'm going to try to ask the previus owner

[athomas]

The six holes have been drilled by the owner. Original mag valve backs only had one hole to allow air to flow from the regulator to the front of the valve assy. In early valve backs the holes didn't line up. This caused a restriction in the air flow. That is why it became a popular upgrade to drill the backs or buy an aftermarket back.

You're good to go.

One thing you might want to upgrade is the on/off top. The original one has the X cut in the bottom. The new ones don't have an up or down and they provide better air flow. You can get them from the AGD online store and they are not very expensive.

[angelKiller16]

ohhh...., i understand what your saying now, yes it is possible, looking at it now, that the holes where drilled but they seem to be very evenly spaced and a "finished" quality. I also do have the on/off top with the X, i will upgrade that very shortley, thanks

[PyRo]

Don't bother with the on-off top. There is no preformance gain, it is only a matter of not having stupid people put it in the wrong way and send there gun in for repair