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  • dre1919
    www.andrewsloan.com
    • May 2002
    • 1548

    #1

    Air Leak in RT

    Hey guys, I have this serious leak out of the front of my barrel. I did a search and found the most popular fix was to replace the o-rings in the power tube tip. I did this, but it still has the leak going. I have an old school RT fitted with the Hyperframe and I run a preset pressure 3000psi 47 ci tank. When I gas it up, that's when the leak starts. I've tried holding the trigger down when I gas it, and it's been cleaned thouroghly. I also have inspected all the o-rings and they appear to be fine. Can you guys think of any other thing that might be the problem here? I sent out some PM's to a couple people, but I gotta get on this kind of quick so I started this thread. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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  • shartley
    paintball player
    • Mar 2001
    • 9169

    #2
    TECH FORUM?

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    • magman007
      I <3 my Penis
      • Jun 2001
      • 7579

      #3
      saer not engaging properly? that would be my guess. since some of the hyperframes caused premature sear wear, other than that all i can say is try oiling it



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      • cwuchu
        Worker
        • May 2002
        • 75

        #4
        Maybe try to change the spacer to the next shorter size?

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        • dre1919
          www.andrewsloan.com
          • May 2002
          • 1548

          #5
          Originally posted by shartley
          TECH FORUM?


          (Are you meaning I should check the Tech Forum? If so, thanks for the tip. If you mean this should have been posted there, thanks for the chastisement. Just needed a quick answer, didn't mean to offend. Not sure if I'm taking you wrong.)

          Everyone else:

          Thanks for the advice. I don't know...I've never had a problem with it doing that before and there doesn't seem to be any sear wear. I wouldn't think I would need a different size spacer if it's worked to this point.
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          • shartley
            paintball player
            • Mar 2001
            • 9169

            #6
            Originally posted by dre1919




            (Are you meaning I should check the Tech Forum? If so, thanks for the tip. If you mean this should have been posted there, thanks for the chastisement. Just needed a quick answer, didn't mean to offend. Not sure if I'm taking you wrong.)
            LOL Yes, the Tech Forum would be a good place to look, AND it would be the correct place for this post.... BUT... I didn't chastise you. And I am not offended.

            If I was really upset, I would have posted quite a bit more... I think you know that.

            But in all seriousness, can you imagine what would happen if everyone just started posting things in any forum?

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            • dre1919
              www.andrewsloan.com
              • May 2002
              • 1548

              #7
              shartley,
              I know, and I appreciate what your trying to do. But, please understand that sometimes when I've been reading a thread and somebody pops in with a quick reply that sounds like "look here instead of wasting our time" or "this need to go somewhere else" it just comes off a bit wrong. I get this impression from time to time with some of your posts, and I try to remember that you are just trying to keep things orderly and a great deal of the time you are either right with what you are saying or provide really good information. For that I thank you. It's just now and then you tend to rub people the wrong way. We all do. Lol. Anyway, no offense meant, hopefully you see where I'm coming from on that.

              Anyway, back on topic. I did do a search through the main forum and the tech forum. I posted this up on the main board because I really wanted to get this fixed quick and I thought more people would see it there. Sorry about that. Both areas basically yielded the same result which was "power tube spacer" or "power tube o-ring" replacement was the best fix. The o-ring appears to be just fine, and I wouldn't think I would need to change out the spacer since it's worked just fine for quite a while with the one it has in it. Am I wrong here? I tried the trick with a straight shot squeegee trying to push it back in place and set it and it wasn't having any of that either. I'm kinda stumped and would like to avoid having to take it to the proshop tommorow. (Got team practice).
              Last edited by dre1919; 08-24-2002, 08:33 PM.
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              • shartley
                paintball player
                • Mar 2001
                • 9169

                #8
                shartley,
                I know, and I appreciate what your trying to do. But, please understand that sometimes when I've been reading a thread and somebody pops in with a quick reply that sounds like "look here instead of wasting our time" or "this need to go somewhere else" it just comes off a bit wrong. I get this impression from time to time with some of your posts, and I try to remember that you are just trying to keep things orderly and a great deal of the time you are either right with what you are saying or provide really good information. For that I thank you. It's just now and then you tend to rub people the wrong way. We all do. Lol. Anyway, no offense meant, hopefully you see where I'm coming from on that.

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                • subbeh
                  I'm Not Cool
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 821

                  #9
                  Pull out your sear and bolt and inspect them for wear. If the strait shot cannot push the bolt back onto the sear, then I would suggest checking it for wear. Especially with a hyperframe.
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                  • dre1919
                    www.andrewsloan.com
                    • May 2002
                    • 1548

                    #10
                    Originally posted by shartley
                    Hmmm...no, I wasn't really suggesting I wanted you to "please point out when others are breaking the rules and leave me alone." Actually, this couldn't be further from the truth. If that's what my post sounded like, then it was misinterpreted. I really don't think it's your responsibility to point this out to people. While you are probably the member with the most longevity here, and a great deal of knowledge...you are not a moderator. If they have a problem with something, they'll bring it to our attention. You are correct sir, I was trying to be nice as I still am. I respect you, but a great amount of the time I find myself repeating the old saying "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" when it comes to some things here.



                    I am trying to understand how it appears to you. Now, as I said before, see it from someone you just told that too's view. Do you really think they are going to sit back and say, "Oh, gosh you're right! Thanks shartley! Why am I a stupid kid?" Ehh, I doubt it. Basically, I'm just saying that since it isn't your job to point these things out to people it really makes you sound like you're getting on to them when you really should let a moderator do it. I'm not mad at you man, I'm just saying I've been here for almost three months now and this is the opinion I've built about you. I really don't experience that same thing with any other online member.

                    Hmmm...that's probably why I put in there "We all do" in reference to rubbing people the wrong way. Because we all do. Look, right now I'm rubbing you the wrong way. In fact, I'd go so far as to say you probably don't like me much and that's alright. It's unfortunate, but alright. I just feel a lot of the time you come down on people when you really shouldn't. You aren't a moderator, although with your knowledge and post count (ie: time here) you probably should be. And you know, if they made you one I would have no problem with that. But until that day, when you roll into some thread and start spouting paragraphs of text on how somebody did something seriously wrong and this and that it tends to offend people. In this case, instead of sparking this longwinded debate, you simply could have posted what you knew about my problem or not posted at all. If the mods wanted it moved, they would have moved it. If they wanted to yell at me for posting it here since I was in a hurry, they would have. I'm quite sure no one's going to back me up on this one, since most people don't really enjoy raising your ire here. That's alright. I really didn't want to get into a debate about this with you in the first place man.

                    I'm sorry my placing this thread on the main board was such an offense, so believe me next time I'll post it in the Tech area and not make the same mistake twice. Thank you for the lesson learned. However, I still haven't managed to fix the air leak problem, which was what I was hoping to do instead of having to hit the proshop. Oh well, no biggie I guess. Too bad this thread morphed into a "dre vs. shartley" arguing thread. I'll be awaiting your retort as I'm sure you no doubt will have one. I am content to simply drop it, as I made my point. No hard feelings. Have a nice day.
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                    • wimag
                      BEZERKERS
                      • Aug 2001
                      • 1334

                      #11
                      I am gonna go with Magman on his reply. sounds like your sear is wearing down. Hyperframes have a tendency to do that. Check your bolt as well make sure it has a good edge. If you have a spare bolt try it out and see if that helps out. The spacer should not be the culprit seeing how it has been in a while. You are slowly eliminating causes and narrowing it down. Good luck.

                      ! now that i reread it, check the bolt!!
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                      • dre1919
                        www.andrewsloan.com
                        • May 2002
                        • 1548

                        #12
                        Originally posted by wimag
                        I am gonna go with Magman on his reply. sounds like your sear is wearing down. Hyperframes have a tendency to do that. Check your bolt as well make sure it has a good edge. If you have a spare bolt try it out and see if that helps out. The spacer should not be the culprit seeing how it has been in a while. You are slowly eliminating causes and narrowing it down. Good luck.

                        ! now that i reread it, check the bolt!!
                        Thanks for the advice bro. Yeah man, I checked the sear and the bolt, they both are in great shape. I've kinda been keeping an eye on this matter anyway since I heard before that Hyper's were hard on them. But, no, there isn't any wear. It's wierd because the o-rings are all in good shape too. I thought the spacer wouldn't be the culprit just because I figured if it was going to have a problem it would have had one before now. I'm probably just going to take it up to the proshop here in town today and see what's going on with it. We have some AirGun Designs certified techs there.

                        Thanks to all that geve input and helped!!
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                        • shartley
                          paintball player
                          • Mar 2001
                          • 9169

                          #13
                          dre1919

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                          • shartley
                            paintball player
                            • Mar 2001
                            • 9169

                            #14
                            In this case, instead of sparking this longwinded debate, you simply could have posted what you knew about my problem or not posted at all. If the mods wanted it moved, they would have moved it. If they wanted to yell at me for posting it here since I was in a hurry, they would have. I'm quite sure no one's going to back me up on this one, since most people don't really enjoy raising your ire here. That's alright. I really didn't want to get into a debate about this with you in the first place man.

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                            • dre1919
                              www.andrewsloan.com
                              • May 2002
                              • 1548

                              #15
                              Whatever man. It isn't even worth getting upset about or arguing about anymore. You brought up your points, so did I. Who's right here? ...Who cares. As I try to do in most things, and may not always succeed, I will be a gentleman in this and say please pardon me. I will in turn pardon you. We can live and let live, smile and say "It's all good." We are both very opinionated people and obviously strong willed in our responses. (i.e: we don't take anything lying down) Sometimes that just gets a bit carried away. Anyway, lets just play paintball and have a good time. Cool?

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