short stroking...

[K4S]

Occasionally whenever i short stroke on my mag the bolt wont recock properly or the seer wont catch so i cant even shoot. I have to degas and then regas before the seer catches again and away i go. I have a slide check so this isnt a "big" problem but i was just wondering...when you short stroke on any mag is it normal for the seer not to catch and then you cant shoot until you degas and regas???

k thx.

[Havoc_online]

have you ever messed with your sear trigger rod length? what type of trigger frame do you have?

how much pressure are you running it at? HPA right?

[athomas]

You may be experiencing bolt stick. Check your bolt spring for wear. It should extend well past the end of the bolt tip(about 1/4") when on the bolt. If it is shorter than it should be, replace it.

If the spring is fine, try a slightly longer power tube spacer.

[K4S]

Originally posted by Havoc_online
have you ever messed with your sear trigger rod length? what type of trigger frame do you have?

how much pressure are you running it at? HPA right?

i got it used...i havent touches the sear trigger rod length but i think the previous owner did...the trigger frame is stock and im running at around 850 psi output from tank....are you sure its bolt stick?

[K4S]

the trigger rod is definately not 1/16 of an inch from the trigger...would this cause the sear not to catch occasionally when i short stroke the trigger? or do i need to order a spacer kit???

[Havoc_online]

adjust the trigger rod to 1.98" that should give you the 1/16" behind the trigger. Do that, try it, then we'll take it from there.:)

[K4S]

ok i set it to 1.98 inches...When i pull the trigger back really slow it has the initial shot, then kinda burps air 1-2 times. When i get it to do that, the trigger rod doesnt go forward all the way and i have to degas and regas to start shooting again.

After i pull the trigger (normal speed, not really slow) i have 1 shot and then while im still holding the trigger, if i release really slow i get either a couple burps of air and then the trigger rod will stay back and not come forward or the my mag will seem to shoot twice (sometimes it will actually shoot a paintball but with a low velocity) and the rod will recock properly. Even when im shooting normally sometimes when i release the trigger i get a double shot...help

k thx.

[K4S]

i watched the mag video thing and i guess i am having bolt stick...but im not sure if that explains why i get double shots when i pull or release the trigger slowly. Should i get a spacer kit? and can someone tell my why im getting double shots. Do i need a new sear or a new on/off pin?

[athomas]

Try the new bolt spring first.

[K4S]

You said that the bolt spring should be about 1/4 inch from the top of the bolt. My spring is 1/4 inch from the top of the bolt when the spring is on, but i looked at my spring from my parts kit and the new spring is almost 1/2 inch from the top of the bolt tip...so yeah, ill try it out this weekend when i go to my field, the spring might be the problem.

Another thing, my spacer doesnt have any numbers on it, it's just blue, and when i shake my valve i can hear my spacer moving up and down...is this a bad thing?

[DirtRider]

the same thing happend to me, my trigger rod was off.

you have to get a set of calipers and put it on 1.985

[K4S]

Where can i get calipers cheap or where can i go to have someone with calipers measure my trigger rod. I looked up calipers on the net and i got some pretty extreme prices for a dial caliper.

[K4S]

Well, i made the trigger rod longer, i didnt have any calipers but i estimated using a ruler to as close as i could. Seems what i put it at fixed it since i can pull the trigger slowly and i just get 1 shot. As for letting go really slow. I was told by a few people that the couple bursts of air was normal since when i let go of the trigger slowly im opening up the on/off pin slightly which causes the bursts of air (or would a new spring fix it all?). I got the lawn sprinkler problem when you hold the trigger, and i fixed that, and my velocity was a bit crazy. About +/-10fps. I think it's the reg seat so i'll try replacing that first.