HPA systems -advice?

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  • Deadman514
    Registered User
    • Jan 2003
    • 20

    #1

    HPA systems -advice?

    I used to run a MiniMag with an AA Apocolypse 4500 tank. Got injured on the job and had to quit paintball/sell my equipment.
    Anyway -I'm recently back on my feet physically -but not so much money wise.
    I'm looking for an inexpensive "nitro" tank that won't cause shootdown with the mag. I was given a mag with a no-name tank that has a preset output pressure -MAJOR shootdown problems.
    I'd prefer an adjustable output pressure -but if it works with a stock mag without shootdown -I'll be happy.
  • BajaBoy
    Registered User
    • Jun 2002
    • 2158

    #2
    crossfire is cheap. and awesome
    if u pick up a used air america there adj.

    or look into a 3k flatline
    RT
    Ace'd Emag (sold)
    Xmag (sold)

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    • Deadman514
      Registered User
      • Jan 2003
      • 20

      #3
      Actually -I just looked at the tank -Turns out it IS a Crossfire. Think the preset pressure is too high for the mag? Maybe that's it. Thanks anyway.
      Any other suggestions?

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      • SocialD
        ^ wanders around aimlessly
        • Jan 2003
        • 229

        #4
        Have you looked into Centerflag bottles? They are fairly inexpensive if you are O.K. with a preset(screw in) bottle.
        I'm a lefty that plays with an old school RT with H/L. I bought a warp and all is right with the world.
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        • Omicron
          Proud Customer of AGD
          • Aug 2001
          • 542

          #5
          PMI Pure Energy ones are pretty good and are inexpensive.

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          • Deadman514
            Registered User
            • Jan 2003
            • 20

            #6
            My main concern is with shootdown more than price.

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            • TheTramp
              Registered User
              • Jan 2001
              • 4019

              #7
              I'm suprized that you're having a problem with your Crossfire tank. I've got three Crossfire tanks (2 68/3000 steel stubs and 1 88/4500 fiber stub). They're all pre-set to 800-850 and I haven't had a single shoot-down problem on any guns I've used them on.

              Are you sure it's a problem with your tank?
              "Relax. Don't worry. Have a Home Brew."
              -Charlie Papazian

              Feedback: http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...threadid=40134

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              • Deadman514
                Registered User
                • Jan 2003
                • 20

                #8
                Yeah -I rebuilt the Mag and tried the tank with a new Mag. The tank reg looks fine (just like a CO2 tank)-I guess it's time to gut it.

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                • Deadman514
                  Registered User
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 20

                  #9
                  I've never had to use a secondary reg with a Mag before. Think the 850psi preset is too high? Think a regulator is the way to go?

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                  • joeyjoe367
                    Confirmed 11 bps RT User!
                    • May 2001
                    • 1982

                    #10
                    The *OLD* Crossfire Tanks had a bit of a shootdown problem. If the regulator is RED, then, it's a new one. Swap it out if that's the case.

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                    -Edmond Burke

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                    • Deadman514
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 20

                      #11
                      This is what I have
                      I take it -it's an old one?
                      When you say "swap it out" do you mean the valve/reg? If so -with what?

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                      • joeyjoe367
                        Confirmed 11 bps RT User!
                        • May 2001
                        • 1982

                        #12
                        Yeah, that's deffinatly one of the older systems. When I said "Swap it out" I meant that you should sell it, and get one of the newer ones.

                        Steel tanks are a pain anyway. You can land a brand new 68/4500 Crossfire preset for around $170, or try to find a used one.

                        If it's *really* that big of a problem with the shootdown and whatnot, I highly recommend getting a differant tank. Considering you're not running an RT valve, a preset should be just fine for you.

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                        • jewie27
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2001
                          • 1275

                          #13
                          HPA

                          I would recommend a PMI Pure Energy preset system. The cheapest being the 3000 psi systems. I'm using the 68 ci tank. It gives me about 700 shots. I'm using it on a Level 10 Retro Minimag. No shootdown at all. The output for this preset tank is 850, which makes the trigger very reactive.

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                          • Kevmaster
                            Owners Group Div: Director
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 5475

                            #14
                            cough, cough
                            http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=36287
                            cough, cough


                            Jeezz.....I gotta get over this cold

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