e-mag or upgrated mini for distance?

[mini_marc_mag]

what has better distance a e-mag or minimag with x-valva and good barrel?

[TransMan]

You have been hangin around too many Cocker jocks.
All guns get the same distance if they are shooting the same FPS its all abbout the physics

[Smokee_2_7]

lol.


either one.

Just make sure you have the gun in perfect working order, with a good consistent air system, high quality consistent paint, and a matched high quality barrel.


Carl

[rikkter]

Originally posted by TransMan
You have been hangin around too many Cocker jocks.
All guns get the same distance if they are shooting the same FPS its all abbout the physics

i have 2 mags and a cocker. and i playeed with my autococker jsut last weekend.. chronoed at SAME fps(290). same paint. but the bore size of the barrel for the autococker was bigger than my mags(balls rolled out VERY easy in the barrel, but not so easy with mags barrel). yet i still got greater distance than the mags.

after each game i chronoed again. the FPS stayed the same and i switched back to my mag. same FPS. noticed i didn't get the same distance.
explain your physics on that. (no that wasn't intended to be a flame in anyway--just little confused.)



as for the distance with the minimag and emag. they're both actually the same guns. just different triggers. so you'd get the same distance. also depending one what they posted above.

[spazzed]

It's the boresize that was affecting your distance, rikkter

[rikkter]

uhm.. did you understand what i said?
my autococker barrel is larger bore. making it less effceint.no? but my cocker was getting more distance than the mag

[Kevmaster]

less efficient, more efficient....when they left the barrel they were going the same speed(although the cocker may have taken more air than necessary to get there).

that said, two balls going the same speed when they leave the barrel at the same hight will go the same distance. i dont know what you were experiencing. yes, 6" of height makes a big difference in how far it goes. Thats an extra ~2/10ths of a second the ball is in the air...when its in the air for maybe 3/4 of a second....

[athomas]

The illusion is based on aiming differences between cockers and mags. When you fire a cocker, the base of the barrel is slightly lower than the base of the barrel on the mag due to the mags low profile. For aiming purposes, people like to use their barrels, and the natural thing is for the cocker barrel tip to be slightly elevated more so than the mag to bring it up to equivalent sighting level. When firing, the guns will be shooting at the same speed and aimed at the same target but the effect is that the trajectory of the cocker is elevated slightly giving it the illusion of greater range.

If you bench mount the barrels, you will see that the trajectory of both guns is the same when fired at the same velocity.

[rikkter]

kk thanks kev and thomas. i was wondering what was going on. i know cockers are clsoed bolt and in theroy more accurate. but i wasn't sure of the distance thing

[Smokee_2_7]

here's your "closed bolt-open bolt" theory:

http://www.warpig.com/paintball/technical/paintguns/balistic/closedopen.shtml

Carl