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  • BlackVCG
    Grubby Owner

    • Oct 2000
    • 4956

    #1

    [Guide] Gun/Airsystem Maintenance.

    This is a compolation of all of the Classic threads that deal with Gun/Airsystem maintenance. Post in this thread if you have questions about any of the topics discussed in these threads and they will be individually answered.

    -BlackVCG

    RT Color Cutaway - Gun Animations

    Regulator Seat - Good vs. Bad

    RT Valve Disassembly

    Flatline Maintenance

    E-Mag Trigger Adjustment
    Last edited by Bunny; 05-30-2014, 08:44 AM.
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  • oxyguy
    Registered User
    • Feb 2003
    • 16

    #2
    Out Put Pressure

    Hello, This is my first post.
    I'm in the market for a new air tank. The tank I have now has a pre-set output pressure of 850 psi and my minimag runs great. The tank I'm looking at is a 68/4500 but the output pressure is 750 psi. will this make a big difference? My gun is in your hands now getting a rt/lvl 10 upgrade if that makes any difference in the answer.
    Thanks for reading... Les

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    • EsPo
      Dosehead
      • Jul 2002
      • 4140

      #3
      what about all of the lx threads?
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      • BlackVCG
        Grubby Owner

        • Oct 2000
        • 4956

        #4
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        • Jonesie
          All Around Good Guy
          • Oct 2002
          • 1123

          #5
          Here is the Level 10 stuff from the Resources Section.

          Level 10 Resources

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          • wyn1370
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            • Feb 2001
            • 3821

            #6
            see my posts here
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            • poolboy51
              Registered User
              • Mar 2003
              • 11

              #7
              68 Automag classic

              for a 68 automag, what kind of oil should you use? Also, how often should it be used? and can you tell me where you are supposed to put the oil and how much should be put on. Thanks for your help!

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              • BlackVCG
                Grubby Owner

                • Oct 2000
                • 4956

                #8
                Pretty much any of the paintball gun oils on the market will work fine. Gold Cup, which comes with AGD guns is okay, but it will dry out over time. I personally use KC Trouble Free Synthetic Oil and never have replaced an o-ring due to wear.

                Place 3-4 drops in the ASA, or disconnect your quick disconnect and drop it in the female end of the QD. Gas it up and with the barrel off, fire it into a towel 20-30 times to get rid of the oil mist and then put the barrel back on. If you don't take the barrel off, be sure to run a squeegee through to remove the oil that coats the inside of the barrel.
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                • poolboy51
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 11

                  #9
                  and this should be done after every time I use it?

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                  • pb4jc
                    Registered User
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 423

                    #10
                    Cleaning Regs?

                    What is the best way to clean the stock reg? And get the most consistent velocities possible.
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                    • faded_away15186
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 1

                      #11
                      I have a 68classic only have had it for about 2 months now, im getting a 68/4500 tank, but on the back of the gun it says rated 3000psi. Is there a new peice i can get that will work with a 4500 psi tank about about 850...? if so where what is it and how much. I am thinking about buying a ULE body and double trig frame but if i have to spend alot of valve and stuff then i dont think i can upgrade it.

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                      • BlackVCG
                        Grubby Owner

                        • Oct 2000
                        • 4956

                        #12
                        poolboy51-

                        You should oil at least each time before you play or every other time.


                        faded_away15186-

                        All preset tanks put out a maximum of 900psi and the most you can push an adjustable tank to is about 1200psi.

                        This means that the most pressure the valve will see is 1200psi. The 3000psi rating means that the valve is rated to have up to 3000psi in it. The only time this will ever happen is in the catastrophic event of having your regulator fail and dumping full pressure in it.

                        Your valve is fine. You do not need to do any upgrades to your valve except Level 10.
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                        • Dueydog
                          Give your Halo The BONE!
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 723

                          #13
                          Hello,
                          Your articles are the best I've seen. AGD should put your articles on thier technical site. I have a year old Flatline 68/4500 which has performed flawlessly until last weekend. My gun stopped cycling, so I checked the tank for air and the output gauge read 200psi. I refilled the tank, tapped the gauge, adjusted the reg and it still did not move until it spiked up to 1200psi. Disassembled, cleaned and oiled the reg which got the tank working again, but the output gauge still does not move when I attempt to adjust output. I tapped the gauge some more last night and it moved from 200psi to 400psi, then to 800 psi although I moved the reg all the way in and all the way out. pressure does not seem to change as the gun now cycles even though the gauge reads 200psi. It seems to be stuck somewhere around 800psi. Any ideas?
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                          • BlackVCG
                            Grubby Owner

                            • Oct 2000
                            • 4956

                            #14
                            Probably just a bad gauge. I would go ahead and replace that. The bad thing is, basically all micro-gauges are junk. If you want to know what your output really is, get an Ashcroft gauge. Air America sells Ashcroft gauges with their name on them at their online site and the larger gauges are less expensive than the micro gauges. The only problem is they don't look as good...

                            Be certain that your spring pack is properly oriented also. There's the one end with the washer and the other end is a smaller diameter. The end with the washer faces towards the piston.

                            Also, I have been suggesting that people flip the reg. seat in the 4.5K Flatlines to get better flow and more reliable output. I've done this to all of my systems and no longer have creep/flow issues. It doesn't seem like it would work, but it works very well and looking at it closer, it's a better seal interface than the existing taper hole design. Take out the spring pack and adjuster, push out the piston from the stem side with the long end of a small allen wrench and then flip over the seat and push the piston back in.
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                            • MercuryCross
                              Registered User
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 9

                              #15
                              I have had my automag for around 2 weeks now, and when I first tried using it, I was using C02 and a Macro line burst, I replaced the macroline and now have HPA but after I tried it again, the marker fires the 1st paintball fine, but after that the paintballs do not get sufficient air somehow and get stuck in the barrel, what I have come up with so far is that the bolt is not moving forward enough as much as it should be somehow or is kinda getting Bolt-stick, I'm getting an Automag Parts kit within the end of the week and am going to change the Power Tube Spring to try and fix the bolt-stick which is one of the problems I have (I believe is cause by short-stroking the trigger), I've also noticed that the Bolt-Stick problem occurs more with paintballs in the gun (which I believe is possibly caused by paintballs getting stuck in the barrel as well)then it does when I dry fire it. While looking through the power feed hole as I dry fired it, the bolt looks like it stops short about 1/4-1/2 the distance it should be normally moving forward to.

                              (with the bolt problem if the paintball comes out of the barrel it lobs about 10 feet before hitting the ground, and looks like I'm not getting enough air or am very low on air.)

                              Please tell me what I should do to repair the gun, if it can be done with the AutoMag Parts Kit or whatever else I would have to do.

                              Thank You

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