should i get an RT valve?

[litestab]

yes or no and tell me why.

[FlagCarrier]

yes, if you have the money, it would be a very good idea to buy a retro. it will dramatically increase your ROF, and make it much easier to compete with some of the high end electros

[ChucktheMAGician]

I'd say no unless you had an adjustable nitro tank. I can't get my retro's to bounce w/ a screw in tank so it kinda feels just like a regular valve to me. Although purchasing or upgrading to a x-valve would get you a lx set if you didn't have that already!

[Ejp414]

But, chuck, isn't the limit for input psi at 850 psi, where most preset tanks are anyway?

[ChucktheMAGician]

I'm not sure what the limit is supposed to be but I've ran mine at 950 and I've seen where others have too. I think any excess would just be vented out the back. Most preset tanks run 800-850, not counting the preset lp ones that are around 450.

[litestab]

hello

well right now i have a 48 ci 3000psi nitro tank, so you are saying i would not notice any difference? what type of tank should i get ( on somewhat of a budget ) thanks

[ChucktheMAGician]

Re: hello

Originally posted by litestab
well right now i have a 48 ci 3000psi nitro tank, so you are saying i would not notice any difference? what type of tank should i get ( on somewhat of a budget ) thanks

I can't believe that someone else hasn't commented on this subject yet. As far as I know you aren't going to get any bounce out of a screw in tank. It may be just me but from what I've read it's not. (looking around to other Retro owners for support ) As far as adjustadle tanks go I use a Flatline and 2 Centerflags. I like both of them because they have on/off's, the Centerflags does bleed back pressure so that's a little plus there, but they are a little more of a pain to mount than the Flatline. I also think the Flatline looks sweeter w/ the guages being on both sides. There always seems to be someone selling a 3k Flatline around here so I think you could get a used one fairly easy w/ out breaking the bank.

[Dayspring]

What chuck is talking about is the "sweetspot/runaway" effect. The higher your input, the more of an effect you'll get. Thing is, that's the gun malfunctioning. It's supposed to kick the trigger to firing position. THAT'S IT.

A preset tank will run perfectly fine with a ReTro/X-Valve. Yes, you can adjust the kick with the input pressure on an adjustable tank, but is it necessary? Not in the slightest.

[GatoLoco]

also, it is said that benchmark frames do not get as reactive triggers due to their design

[tobz]

$130 for my AGD Flatline...

I am selling my flatline to buy a preset tank for my cocker. It is a 68 ci 3000 psi tank. It works great, has both guages still, metal fill nipple cover, and the mounting cradle! I've always used a tank cover and the tank is in mint condition (although I'm keeping the cover ) LMK if you're interested. I have good fedback here on AO, on eBay, as well as paypal! Thanks.
T.J.

[tobz]

here is the pic

The gray drop forward isn't included unless you want to add $20. Thanks!
T.J.

[MoBiLe]

so what would be a better buy
X-valve or the RT valve?

[WickeDKlowN]

Prolly the X-Valve, it comes with Level 10, and its lighter i believe. But theres nothing wrong with the ReTro valve either.

[irbodden]

Chuck, you have no clue what you are talking about.

You WILL get plenty of bounce with ANY nitro tank. 850 is the normal output for any preset tank which is the recommended pressure to run a Retro valve at. You will notice a tremendous increase in ROF and you will feel the reactiveness plenty running it @ 850.

[irbodden]

Originally posted by MoBiLe
so what would be a better buy
X-valve or the RT valve?

XValve is about 2-3 ounces lighter, costs $225 with your old valve..

RT Valves are for sale for around $200 used (I got one with an extra bolt or two for sale for $190 ), then you sell your old classic valve for $90 and you get the Retro for $110.

So the diffrence between XValve and RT valve is $115 ... and a few ounces.