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  • Eric Cartman
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    • Apr 2003
    • 779

    #1

    reactivity questions

    Eric Cartman

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  • virus
    AO's dirty little secret
    • Oct 2000
    • 1524

    #2
    from what you posted.... its sounds likeyou should be ok.... another way to increase the reactivity of your trigger would be to order a shorter on/off pin.....
    Virus, King of the Basement Trollz has spoken

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    • athomas
      Of course it works-its AGD
      • Jan 2002
      • 8039

      #3
      The two burst disks are for the tank pressure and the output pressure.

      850psi should work fine to give you good reactivity.

      The reactivity can be increased if you:

      - shim the trigger (removes side to side slop).
      - shorten the on/off pin
      Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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      • joeyjoe367
        Confirmed 11 bps RT User!
        • May 2001
        • 1982

        #4
        with 1000 psi, you should be getting some major sweet-spotting going on if you're pulling the trigger slow enough.

        Are you sure that it's at 1000 psi? Do you have a gauge somewhere upstream from your tank comfirming this?

        other than that, Sounds like what you're doing is perfectly sane.

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        • Eric Cartman
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          • Apr 2003
          • 779

          #5
          Thanks for the responses. I'll look into getting a shorter on/off pin and see how that works. I used another guage "upstream" just as joeyjoe said to determine the output pressure. As far as the sweet spotting goes, I understand that to be a malfunction (when the gun goes virtually automatic). I haven't experienced any of that, just a nice kick back on the trigger which should help my ROF.
          I've got a smart parts two finger trigger and there's virtually no side to side slop as it is, so I don't think I can do much with that.

          Cheers!

          Eric Cartman

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          • cgrieves

            #6
            Eric, are you using a double trigger? Even though mathematics says that the reactivity (as felt by the finger) should be stronger- but shorter- with a single trigger, I couldn't feel it with my single trigger. I upgraded to a Benchmark double trigger frame and find it excellent.

            Also my advice would be to buy a couple of standard length on/off pins and file them down until you find the reactivity you like. Mine had to be filed down further than most (.730) before I got the reactivity I was after (no sweetspotting though).

            Good luck and have fun.

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            • Eric Cartman
              []*[]
              • Apr 2003
              • 779

              #7
              Yeah, I've got a Smart Parts double trigger that I installed some time ago which I find has a really nice feel. I'm going to see about getting some on/off pins this weekend and see what I can accomplish with that.
              Again, thanks for the tips!
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              • jterraw
                Registered User
                • Mar 2003
                • 145

                #8
                look at this

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                • Eric Cartman
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                  • Apr 2003
                  • 779

                  #9
                  That's awesome jterraw! I've been looking for a good Cartman paintball picture. I want to use that in my sig if I ever figure out how the hell to do that.

                  Thanks!
                  Eric Cartman

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                  • jterraw
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 145

                    #10
                    cartman

                    hey dude,
                    glad you liked the pic. I think i got it from another website, but its not copyrited due to it being a south park character. So use it, I will. did you notice its an emag and a flatline? cool HUH.

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                    • sneakyhacker420
                      AO's Uber Green Guru
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 1247

                      #11
                      look in the dealers forum, someone is selling a kit of .745 and .735 on/off pins


                      i noticed the same problem as you with the stock .750 pin... ordered the .745, and its MUCH more reactive now... very good purchase IMO


                      ...and have him take the shims out and lower it to about 900 psi when u get the .745 pin (if you do)


                      ... it will help put less strain on the retro/x-valve o-rings
                      Last edited by sneakyhacker420; 04-12-2003, 09:15 AM.
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                      • sneakyhacker420
                        AO's Uber Green Guru
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 1247

                        #12
                        Re: cartman

                        Originally posted by jterraw
                        hey dude,
                        glad you liked the pic. I think i got it from another website, but its not copyrited due to it being a south park character. So use it, I will. did you notice its an emag and a flatline? cool HUH.
                        um... thats an x-mag




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                        • Eric Cartman
                          []*[]
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 779

                          #13
                          Good eye! That is an Xmag. I've just ordered an intelliframe so I think I'll hold off on changing on/off pins until that arrives and I see how that's performing. Again, thanks for the input guys!
                          Eric Cartman

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                          • Jonesie
                            All Around Good Guy
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 1123

                            #14
                            I've run my ReTro valve as high as 1000psi without a short-term problem. I couldn't tell ya what it did long term, but it doesn't go much above 850 now a days...

                            Later ~ Dave
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                            • sneakyhacker420
                              AO's Uber Green Guru
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 1247

                              #15
                              well if u want to really be specific... its the extreme e-mag that came out in europe before the they put the x-valve in it... and very few ever made it to the US
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