Yay Autococker! <sigh>

[davidb]

I got myself a new 2002 Cocker not too long ago. Remember when pbgear.com was doing giving the free hinge with the 2K2's? Well, I was very pleased with myself because I was able to do the hinge installation and timing and all that goodness all by myself (previous experience w/ cockers = I once fired an Autococker).

I went for a long time before I finally got to use the thing. When I did, it worked flawlessly. Two outings (first was cut short by rain / general un-fun-ness) and no problems.

But then, yesterday, I noticed that I was getting excessive blowback up the feed tube, which I assume never became a problem because I use a Halo. No, I was not playing on Easter Sunday, I just had some air left. :P Anyway, I figured I'd just let it wait 'til tomorrow (meaning today). When, this morning, I went to delay the cocking a bit, I noticed that I was missing a screw! The back screw from that part on the actuating rod that goes into the 3 way was not there, which obviously is why the timing slipped.

My questions are as follows:

1. I'm as much a Mag lover as anyone here... What am I doing with a Cocker?

2. Does anyone know if this screw is some kind of standard size/style, or is it something unique to this part? Basically, is this something I could replace at a hardware store? If yes, respond thusly. If no, proceed to question three.

3. Is this something that a more hardcore cocker owner might have extras of? Is there a website or anything that I could go to to get a replacement? I have already checked Worr.com, no help there.

4. Does anyone see any problem, other than pure, unadulterated ghetto-ness, with me using duct/masking/electrical/police/orsomething tape to keep the timing from slipping until the screw can be replaced?

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

[Jonesie]

1. I'm as much a Mag lover as anyone here... What am I doing with a Cocker?

You tell us, bud!



Does anyone know if this screw is some kind of standard size/style, or is it something unique to this part? Basically, is this something I could replace at a hardware store? If yes, respond thusly. If no, proceed to question three.

This I don't know for sure. You could take it up to the hardware store and try a few different screws until you find the right one.



4. Does anyone see any problem, other than pure, unadulterated ghetto-ness, with me using duct/masking/electrical/police/orsomething tape to keep the timing from slipping until the screw can be replaced?

I wouldn't, but that's just me. I don't like that kind of stuff on my guns.

Later ~ Dave

[greenkill]

The reason why you are getting blow back is because the cocking sequence is happening to early. The air from the valve is still escaping through the bolt, when the actuator rod is being activated, which means the bolt is opening while air is still coming up, blowing the balls back up the feed tube.

1) Cockers are fun to play with? I dunno hehe

2/3) Compulsive paintball sells these for a buck a peice. Might be good to have a few laying around. http://www.compulsivepaintball.com/p...36&1=249&3=484

4) I wouldn't recommend it. you're timing can get out of whack if the set screw isn't in. then you won't be happy...

[askman]

I believe the set screw is 4-40. It is standard size. take it down to hardware store, and match it up. Best to locktite it..

[davidb]

Thank you very much everyone!

The reason why you are getting blow back is because the cocking sequence is happening to early. The air from the valve is still escaping through the bolt, when the actuator rod is being activated, which means the bolt is opening while air is still coming up, blowing the balls back up the feed tube.

I know, that's what I was going to fix. The cocking sequence was happening to early because the collar was loose because the screw was missing. Thank's a million for the link, though! If I can't get a replacement at a hardware store, I'll probably go there.

Oh, and the answer to #1: The Cocker is basically to tide me over until I can afford a high-end Mag. If I had gotten a 68 classic, then I would have had to buy ULE body, X Valve, Intelliframe, barrels, etc... Well, technically I wouldn't have had to, but then again I WOULD HAVE HAD TO! Cocker was the cheap way out.

Anyone else notice the complete role reversal here? I got the Cocker over the Mag so I wouldn't have to upgrade?! :P

[greenkill]

well to me i just am interested in the mechanics of all the high end markers out there... I built my own autococker, and now i'm building my own mag.... i'm just taking the time and learning it all. its fun. too bad its an expensive learning process

http://www.greenkill.com/autococker.php <-- thats the cocker i built

right now my mag stands at a

ULE body
x valve
standard AM/MM rail

i'm slowly building this gun

[askman]

for myself, I got into I used to be a gunsmith, work as engineer, and like to tinker. I started to fix my marker, then friends, then started to fixing/buying/selling/trading markers(to keep my paintball bill paid) In the process, i managed to play with just about every marker out there. I am down to half a dozen (besides the older ones for my collection) I have 2 emag(ule and micro), pump mag and sydarm(coming) beside a 2 cockers that I built(from cherry picked parts over the years) its been profitable and fun experience. (my net out of pocket expense has been virtually zero for all these markers)