scuba tanks

[akscubainst]

nope Cascades stretch the fills but 3000psi is 3000psi.

[madmatt151]

Thanks, so you wouldn't recommend getting a tank online or ebay? I realize you are a dealer, but what are the major reasons against it? Thanks.

[rkjunior303]

This is great info.. How many fills do you normally get out of a normal size tank?

[akscubainst]

SCUBA tanks require 2 tests, the standard 5 year hydro and an annual visual inspection.

The annual is usually about $15-20 and requires the shop to drain the tank and give the tank a thorough once over. Some say this is actually more important for safety than the hydro test.

Given this, If you bring a tank into a dive shop without a current visual or at least one they reconize as local, they are probably going to make you get one. I would for my safety.

If it's a new tank it needs to be visualed before it's assembled. People have found dead rats in SCUBA tanks Some of them after the've been breathing off the tank for a year.

You're going to pay freight which for a 30-40lb cylinder is $25-30.

If it's out of Hydro there's another $25-50 depending on where you are.

So that $80 tank on Ebay can end-up costing you as much or more than an new one.

One thing I've had customers do is buy a tank at a garage sale or somewhere on agreement that if it fails any test, they get their money back. That's hard to do online.

If you can get a deal online great but be advised that you will have additional expenses.

[madmatt151]

Thanks...

Thanks alot, that is good sound advice. I will probably buy from the local guy here. He has even spoke of setting the tank up witht he right valves and stuff to have me set up already. He also told me that he can order hoses to any length I need that will hold the pressure. I mean to use these for my tank to valve connection on my gun. Seems like working local is better.

[abaez]

Bump for a great thread and some great info.. I bought two scubas nearly brand new from this guy locally for about 125.. had to hydro them and stuff but it's so worth it.. I didn't know about this cascading.. I have two tanks that me and my friend use.. would it be good to lets say.. fill both our tanks to full with one.. then from then on after fill with the first tank.. then top off with the other?

[akscubainst]

Here's a real cascade system. You would hook the tank to the fill whip, open the first bottle fill until it is either full or they equalize then close that cylinder and go on to the next and so on until your tank is full.

You can do the same thing with scuba tanks just always fill from the scuba tank with the lowest pressure first and work your way up.

Dave

Oh yea, this picture belongs to american airworks . com

[Big'n slo]

Dave's (akscubainst) a great guy everyone. He knows what he's talking about and can adapt just about any fitting for use with paintball....

Speaking of which Dave, I'm gonna need that SCBA adapter

Jeff

[postma]

common fillstation requires what kind of tank?

I noticed everyone saying to get a tank with a DIN valve? Is this what is needed for the common fill stations? I have looked at some with DIN valves and it doesn't look right.
Thanks,
Kory

[akscubainst]

DIN is a screw in connection intended for pressures above 3442psi. The typical yoke isn't rated above 3442psi (this just changed it was 3000psi) To use DIN with Paintball I recommend you get a fill station that is setup for DIN. It's going to be more expensive but safety is key.

Divers who want to use DIN have to have an conversion kit installed on the 1st stage reg.

Dave

[postma]

so what type of valve do common scuba fill stations use? What is it called?
Kory

[akscubainst]

A standard scuba valve is called a "K" Valve

[Fuji]

Originally posted by Hellaspaint The Bauer distributor here in Greece told me that it is not correct to have the same fill nipple in 3000psi and 4500psi paintball bottles. I think he is right. I think paintball industry must do something about that.

Actually, Nitroduck used to have a nipple that had a different fitting. For just that reason. Granted, they had an adaptor that allowed you to fill off of a 3k station. Which, since no one had that special male fitting for the 4.5k tanks, conveniently worked for all fills. I just sold my old nitroduck that had that fitting.

[jewie27]

SCUBA Cylinders

"I have been told that the DOT will in the near future finally allow the use of the 4500 psi SCUBA tanks Europeans have been using for ages."

This year Luxfer USA has made 4350 PSI SCUBA Cylinders. They are being sold by XS SCUBA. All of you with 4500 or 5000 PSI paintball tanks should check them out.

I also work in a SCUBA Shop, any questions? Just post a message.

[Outlaw5]

jewie 27

Roughly how much is the price for the new Luxfer 4350 Scuba cylinder? Just wondering because I want to go that route if possible.