Dual intellifed warp and revvy!

[ScatterPlot]

Woo hoo! Ive finally done it... the dually intellifed Retro mag! Im not sure if anyone else has made one of these or if you can do it easier on something else but I have done it! Well OK its no big deal but Im proud of myself for it and wanted to tell everyone. If youre confused, when I pull the trigger I now have a spinning warp AND a spinning revvy! I know you might say theres instructions on the Airgun.com website, but last time I checked that was for either/or. This works for both! What I did was wired 2 nine volts in series, then ran it through a 12 volt voltage regulator into a 12 volt DPDT relay and then connected the contacts of the relay into the warp and revvy. Then, to make it easily disconnected, I put it all into a crimp-on 9-pin connector and popped it onto my gun, and it worked! Lemme know if anyone wants to copy this or anything and I can get you some better instructions and the parts numbers. See ya later!
Bert

[Clockwork_Orange]

Sounds great! I'd appreciate some more info on doing this mod.:)

[FreakBaller12]

pics???

[borph]

Re: Dual intellifed warp and revvy!

Originally posted by bertmcmahan
Lemme know if anyone wants to copy this or anything and I can get you some better instructions and the parts numbers. See ya later!
Bert

I would sure like to see some schematics or pictures.

[BD_Paintball]

just go to the part where you wire the warp to intelli frame and rev to intelli frame on the web site and follow that. i did this about 6 months ago and it really does help.

[borph]

Originally posted by BD_Paintball
just go to the part where you wire the warp to intelli frame and rev to intelli frame on the web site and follow that. i did this about 6 months ago and it really does help.

In your first post above you mentioned installing a relay. AGD's intellifeed instructions doesn't include this step. What are the connections to and from the relay?

[BD_Paintball]

just follow these instructions

http://store.airgun.com/acb/Category.cfm?&DID=17&User_ID=389217&st=1533&st2=38939820&st3=-81253228&CATID=15

this is all you need to do.

[ScatterPlot]

Actually I wasn't sure how to do BOTH the warp AND the intelli at the same time, so I used a DPDT relay to connect them. However, the problem with it was that it was big and heavy (ran off 2 9v batteries). The reason for this was that Radio Shack's smallest DPDT relay was at 12 volts. I'll post up a schematic of what I did and all shortly. Since doing this project (note the original dates) I figure that there must be an easier way to do this using transistors, but I don't know how to work those...yet:). So anyways I should have the schematics up soon.

[BD_Paintball]

you just connect the warp wires and the rev wires to the same roller thing. worked for me so it sould work for every one.

[ScatterPlot]

I thought I tried that and it made the revvy spin continually...
Anyway here's the diagram.

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Here's the problems with that design:
1. It's big and heavy. The use of 2 9 volt batteries made it that way, since the only relay availible to me was a 12 volt one.

2. It's hard to wire. Perf boards are not easy to wire unless you kinda know what you are doing.

3. It's slow. It might not be able to keep up with really fast firing, since the relay is mechanical and has a small dwell time.

Note: This is for intelliframes only, not for electronic guns that send a pulse of electricity to the warp board. This is for one that closes a switch.

Also, you must do the part on your own about intellifeeding the Revvy and all.

The Revvy wires A and B refer to the ends of the two intellifeed wires from the revvy. The Warp A and B are for the same thing, as are the Intelliframe wires.

Make sure to wire the relay right or you will get the exact opposite of what you want- spins all the time until the trigger is pulled, then it stops. The Relay is both an NC and an NO relay (normally closed and normally open, respectively) depending on the way you wire it. Make sure to wire it to the normally OPEN contacts, which are the ones to the far end of the relay.

One last thing: The "Com" on the relay (look at the back of the box) is the part wired on the right side of the diagram.




Well, I think that's it, if you have any questions please ask, and also please tell me if it DOES work to just wire them both to the same thing. I really do think that didn't work for me for some reason.

[ScatterPlot]

Oh yeah, one more thing. I used an 8 pin (I think) D-Sub connector to connect it all to my gun and be able to detach it easily. You can do that if you want, or wire it all together more permanently.

[borph]

Thanks for the great info, Bert! And for your attention to the details.

[Tim Taylor]

DPDT switch instead of relay (if you want to isolate both devices). Relay not only has additional dwell time but the inexpensive RS relays probably have a MTBF of about 30,000 to 50,000 cycles (7 1/2 to 12 1/2 cases). If you want to stick with the relay install a diode across the coil to help with debounce, this will also allow the relay to last a little longer.

[ScatterPlot]

Hmm, I'm not too familiar with the functions of diodes, could you tell me what that would accomplish? I know that they're things that let current flow one way only but their uses are unknown to me. I can't use a DPDT switch since they don't make any that fit in the intelliframe (if that's not what you're talking about then LMK). Thanks for the help though. I also do know of some online stores that sell truckloads of this kinda thing, RS was just the easiest and cheapest. 7 dollar shipping for a relay is kinda a butt kicker :)