Booyah, need help!!!

[hostage]

Hey guys i need help getting this thing to work.
I have an automag 68, with a booyah attached to it. I read instructions througly and can't find a problem. I have extra peices that the instructions dont make reference to. The gun shoots a few rounds and sounds like it is leaking a bit. It has problems firing. The extra parts are these oring looking things that have some ahesive on it. If anyone has any ideas plz let me konw.
-Hostgae

[Sqweezer]

Make sure you don't have the on/off upside down.

[hostage]

well there is a copper peice of medal that has 3 wholes in the sides with 1 hole going through this cylnder object. Either way both sides look identical. Then the on off valve which is below that is the inserted the same way the old valve was, with the smaller side of the pin sticking down that is sapose to make it fire it. I played around but I dont kow what the sticky orings are for. I played around but the instructions left out a lot i think.
-Hostage

[Sqweezer]

I'm sorry i meant PIN make sur eyou dont have the PIN upside down

[hostage]

The pin can't fit any other way. The whole that it goes into is not symetric and could not fit the other way. The thing i am thinking that might be the problem are the sticker kind of plastic like orings they included.
-Hostage

[a_malfunction]

Call Mako.... they are doing the service for the boo-yah frames. I dont know the number, but you should be able to find it somewhere....

[markhauguel]

Make sure that you put the rail bushing back in after you put the frame on. Don't try to go without it. It appears that the alignment goes off and the smaller on/off pin doesn't hit the sear right anymore. It will work for a while and the valve gets loose and slides back (because it can) the bushing makes for very little play in alignment. Mine worked great but I had to tap the bushing through with a hammer and a wood dowel. As for the adhesive washers I have no clue where they are supposed to go. I tried behind the bumper but that was just bad so I put them aside and never used them. I have several cases through the gun and love it. As long as I remember to keep my fat fingers off the trigger when I don't want to shoot something like my foot or the bunker in front of me. I hope this helps, good luck.

[hostage]

So what type of orings do u use on it, just the clear hard plastic one or the stock oring. I don't know what you are talking about the rail part. i had to actually shave down a back end of the peice that I had to take the trigger pin out of(in other words i grinded down the thing that sits in the rocker.) It doesn't seem to be the what a grinded down cause it was the back end that was hitting aganist the booyah frame. It seems like it doesn't make contact totally pin or as what you were saying. Could you please elaborate.
Thanx,
Hostage

[markhauguel]

The rear rail bushing is more of a steel tube that slides (sometimes) where the rear frame screw goes. It is like a pin to hold the frame in alignment when the screw is pulled out. It actually holds the Booyah frame to the rail so when the screw is pulled out the only thing that can move is the valve assembly. But it does make the hole a lot tighter for the rear frame screw. I ended up using the stock bumper and putting the clear one and the sticky ones in my box just in case I ever found out why they were needed. I have never found anyone that knew where they were supposed to go and the manual (hehe) never mentioned them. My mini will work to about 8-9 bps with a 12v revy any more and it turns into a paintsprayer. I know it is critical that the rear part of the sear hit the pin perfectly. I would also make sure that the solenoid that hits the sear is adjusted for maximum travel. The book tells you how to do this. Be very careful though. Good luck. I did actually get one to work great so it will work eventually.

[hostage]

I had a real getto verson of the instructions. There was no pictuer or firuger to follow. It looked like a photocopy of the instructions where parts of ti were missing. Would you happen to have any pictures of what you mean?
Thanx again

[markhauguel]

I ran down in the basement and snapped up some pictures. I hope this post is not too big.

The rear bushing is a metal tube that you should have had maybe stuck in your old grip. It looks like this when it is in from the bottom of the grip and the top of the rail.






also make sure that the sear is centered in the center of the hole as in above

The on/off goes in this way



and make sure that there isn't a very big gap here between the body and the valve. there should be a little but not much more than this.



I hope this helps. also without the valve in put your finger where the on/off will go and pull the trigger a few times. It should kick against your finger real hard.

[Lockawam]

here is the number and address to get the frame serviced.

[hostage]

Okay I put my hand in there and fired it makes a loud clank sound when i put my finger down on it and fire. When I dont press down it sometimes makes a clank noise. I put the valve in and it fires a few time then quits.
Thanx bunches for the pics!
-Hostage

[hostage]

I relooked at it and that medal tube is in the frame. So that can't be the problem. I have two ideas that might be causing the problem. First is that the sear is still getting in the way of the booyah and makeing it lift. The way how i got the sear to sit in booyah frame was to shave part of the sear down using an eletric knife sharpener. It might be still rasing the booyah frame away from the on/off valve. Second reason is that the part I shaved away from the sear might have been a kind of weight, by shaving it down I might have unbalanced it. Though I doubt it cause if I didn't shave that part down it would still be in the way.

Also my gun is a 68 Automag. When I tested it I didn't bother putting a expasntion chamber on it and I pluged C02 directly into the gun, but I had a remote.

The last time I tested it out I looked over what you said and made sure. I tested it out and it shot okay at a very slow rate at semi. Then it started to leak. (sigh) Tried full auto fire, click click click click then fire and that kept repeating it self. This frame is hell! Well thanx again.
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[hostage]

holy crap i think i figured it out, I think I need to shave down the seir a little bit more. Cause it has been hard putting the valve back in and it look like it raises up when i put it in meaning that the seir is still bumping up against the frame, I'll test shave down the part tommarow. Thanx for helping me limit down the problem, i thought it was something else, ill let you know.
Thanx for the help,
-Hostage