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  • Hop Hop
    WaWa Weee Wa
    • Nov 2001
    • 123

    #1

    N2 fiber or steel ???

    Hi everyone, I just got myself a Crossfire steel nitro tank. I would like to hear what you guys think about Fiber warp VS. steel which one is better? and is crossfire brand any good?

    Thanks all.


    http://www.crossfireinc.com/200X/detail.asp?product_id=CF68STUB
  • a_malfunction
    Damnit! It Malfunctioned!
    • Feb 2001
    • 1779

    #2
    Crossfire makes really good tanks. I like steel tanks.... you have 5 years in between hydro testing instead of 3 with a fiber tank. Some of the newer fiber tanks have 5 years as well, but most are 3.
    -Gig 'Em Ags!

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    • Cha0tic
      g0t mag?
      • Feb 2001
      • 1990

      #3
      the fiber tanks are lighter, but not as durable. if you get a fiber wrapped tank, buy a tank cover.

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      • tooslow
        ???
        • Sep 2001
        • 141

        #4
        Crossifre does make good equipment. You won't go wrong with it. As for steel vs. wrapped... Well just like it's been said, fiber wrapped tanks are lighter than steel. But steel is more durable. But that's not to say that fiber tanks are not durable. They're not going to burst open or anything like that. It's just that you should use a tank cover to prevent the exterior of the tank from getting dinged up.

        And last, but not least, don't forget about cost.... Steel tanks are usually a great deal cheaper than wrapped tanks.

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        • TheTramp
          Registered User
          • Jan 2001
          • 4019

          #5
          I always recomend the crossfire 68 Stub. A great tank for a good (low) price. As others have said, it's got a five year hydro and I bet you would have to go at it with a sledgehammer to damage it.
          "Relax. Don't worry. Have a Home Brew."
          -Charlie Papazian

          Feedback: http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...threadid=40134

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          • Panzerr
            a stockaholic
            • Sep 2001
            • 683

            #6
            I have a fibre 45/4500 crossfire and I love it! It is the lightest tank I've ever owned and has an awesome flow rate.
            sixty-six.

            Du bist, was du machst. Punkt.

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            • MikeCouves
              The Enemy
              • Aug 2001
              • 1877

              #7
              I got a little 47/3000 PE Steel, and I love it! It's so small and compact, and it's durable as hell. I like the look of it too, they have the nicest looking regs. And PE has nice 68 Stubs too, they are way nicer, black, and got a PE reg. I like the PE over Crossfire, way prettier and faster.

              I also prefer steel cuz it's cheap and tuff as nails. And I think it's looks purdier .
              "If everything is under control your not moving fast enough."

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              • Hop Hop
                WaWa Weee Wa
                • Nov 2001
                • 123

                #8
                Hi MikeCouves, how many shots can you get out of your 47/3000 PE Steel?

                thanks.

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                • cphilip
                  Former Moderator

                  • Jun 2026
                  • 16216

                  #9
                  OK... now lets get some stuff straight. Some of the "Steel tanks" you are talking about are Aluminum not Steel. Aluminum tanks are thicker, larger in both length and diameter for the same internal volume and even heavier than the Cro Molly steel tanks like Crossfire makes. A Crossfire 68/3000 chro-Molly steel is amost exactly the same size and a 48/3000 PE Aluminum and a bit lighter as well. In fact the Crossfire 68 I had I had to buy a 48 ci tank cover for it. And I had a 48 PE as wells so I was able to measure them side by side. So keep this in mind when you are talking HPA/Nitor metal tanks there are two types. Steel and Aluminum. I had no trouble out of either of them by the way.


                  AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

                  cphilip.com

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                  • Panzerr
                    a stockaholic
                    • Sep 2001
                    • 683

                    #10
                    The weight difference between the steel and aluminum tanks is trivial.
                    sixty-six.

                    Du bist, was du machst. Punkt.

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                    • cphilip
                      Former Moderator

                      • Jun 2026
                      • 16216

                      #11
                      Not all completely true. It take much more Aluminum to achieve the same strength as Cro molly steel. A bit over double as a matter of fact. So if its Aluminum its got to be bigger and thicker than the Cro Molly Steel alloy to do the same job. But that balances out the lighter weight of the Aluminum advantage so they become similar. Like I said before...a 68/3000 cro molly steel tank is just a hair lighter and almost exactly the same dimensions of a 48/3000 Aluminum tank. Trust me. It most definitely is. I wouldn't lie to you about that. Had em both and confirmed it.


                      AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

                      cphilip.com

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                      • Panzerr
                        a stockaholic
                        • Sep 2001
                        • 683

                        #12
                        I first owned an aluminum tank, then a steel tank and now a fibre wrap. I didn't find the steel to be significantly lighter than the aluminum. As you said, though, you do get more bang for you buck in volume with the relatively same size tank in steel vs aluminum (68 vs 47 or 48).
                        sixty-six.

                        Du bist, was du machst. Punkt.

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                        • cphilip
                          Former Moderator

                          • Jun 2026
                          • 16216

                          #13
                          Yup! that was my point!!! Sorry it took me so long to make it.

                          I liked both of them as far as how they worked while I had them. But me too now all fiber Wraped Flatlines. With the Warps now weight became a real issue so I had to come off the Metals and go Fiber. Anything you can get off helps.


                          AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

                          cphilip.com

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                          • Panzerr
                            a stockaholic
                            • Sep 2001
                            • 683

                            #14
                            No kidding. I could not believe how light my retro mag became when I dumped the steel tank and put on the fibre wrap. It was truly amazing.
                            sixty-six.

                            Du bist, was du machst. Punkt.

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                            • MINIMAGMAN
                              President of AGD (no...)
                              • Nov 2001
                              • 108

                              #15
                              hey guys whats a good psi output for a minimag if you got an adjustable tank?

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