Anyone have their LX springs break?

[Will Wood]

Well.. I bought a mag that had level ten "Tuned". Played a tourneiy.. It wasn't exactly perfect. It was going "pft pft" alot.

So I take it apart just now .. and see the problem. The spring snaped. The top part of it broke. (It was the cut spring)

This ever happen to anyone else?

And what do you recomend I do? If the Cut spring worked perfect before it broke, should I move to the long or short spring?

Hopefully one of my 2 mag using teammates isn't using their middle springs.

[Strider]

Yeh we've had two snap around here.

Just replace it with the long spring, and cut to fit.

I then aquired a new middle (red) spring later...

[BlackVCG]

The middle spring breaks because when they cut it, it weakened the integrity of the spring.

Use the short gold spring. It's the only spring I use.

[ChucktheMAGician]

Originally posted by BlackVCG
The middle spring breaks because when they cut it, it weakened the integrity of the spring.

I like the middle spring. Are the red ones a totally different spring, uncut and stronger?

[Strider]

The red spring is a non cut version of the cut spring. (Middle Spring)

[Smokee_2_7]

Yes, i've had 2 of the cut springs break here. The new (red) non-cut middle legnth fixes any problems with this.

BlackVCG, may I ask why you use the shortest spring? Do you play at lower velocities or shoot not-so-brittle paint? Just wondering. . . from my understanding, the short one is designed for 'easy' paint handeling ability in the 260's range- - - using it and running at 290ish makes it only slightly eaisier on paint than a level 7 bolt. Please correct me if im wrong: If I can get by using that spring (and there fore less pressure) to increase my shots off a tank while still not worrying about chops, i'll definitly do it.

Carl

[Will Wood]

What's up with this "Red" spring thing?

[Bad_Knees]

I had a short spring break..

Well I will post a picture later but I had a gold spring (trying to determine if it'd the short spring or a stock spring due to the gauge of material) break which I think is the reason why level 10 pinched and then proceeded to break a ball. You can see the ball breakage from the last AO Socal mini meet. So what do we do if the spring cracked and it was never modified?

BK

[Strider]

Originally posted by Will Wood
What's up with this "Red" spring thing?

Originally posted by Strider
The red spring is a non cut version of the cut spring. (Middle Spring)

I hear an echo in here...

[speedyfox666]

well, when i received my x-mag there was a little box with the restains of the level 10 they putted in.

there was a short gold one, and a longer red one. the one in the gun has the same lenght as the red one but is just iron color.

so, what will be the middle spring ?

any ideas ?

[ChucktheMAGician]

Originally posted by speedyfox666
there was a short gold one, and a longer red one. the one in the gun has the same lenght as the red one but is just iron color.

so, what will be the middle spring ?

any ideas ?

The red one is the middle one. It may be the same length as the other but it should be softer.

[speedyfox666]

I little question about gas efficiency.

Does the spring affect this an if so. in how far ?

I use the red spring middle or the long one .

Would you feel the difference?

We fill most of the time on scuba stations so I fillto 3000PSI and if I 'm lucky I can play 1 full hopper and max 3 pods (than it's over )

can I do something to reduce this ?

(on millenums, they fill to 4500psi so that's not a problem )

[cgrieves]

Yes the shorter/softer springs will make a difference to gas efficency. Can't really give you any figures, but try it and see.....

[speeddemon]

Originally posted by Smokee_2_7
Yes, i've had 2 of the cut springs break here. The new (red) non-cut middle legnth fixes any problems with this.

BlackVCG, may I ask why you use the shortest spring? Do you play at lower velocities or shoot not-so-brittle paint? Just wondering. . . from my understanding, the short one is designed for 'easy' paint handeling ability in the 260's range- - - using it and running at 290ish makes it only slightly eaisier on paint than a level 7 bolt. Please correct me if im wrong: If I can get by using that spring (and there fore less pressure) to increase my shots off a tank while still not worrying about chops, i'll definitly do it.

Carl

Personally I haven't had any chops with the gold spring at all. The longer spring is softer on paint, and I imagine that bad paint could be chopped by the short spring, but I have yet to chop a ball in more cases than I can count. Plus with the gold spring the gun will be more efficient.

[cgrieves]

It actually well worth fitting the long and short springs, and firing the bolt against your finger* in order to feel the difference in force applied to a misfed ball. The longest spring is really very soft on paint, and the short spring is markedly harder, but you are right- for the majority of paints the short spring will be fine, and will give better efficiency. Although if, like us you fire paint like the extremely brittle Zap Chronic Ultimate, then the longest spring is definitely the best choice. Over here in the UK all the decent tournaments use H-PAC to provide self-service 4500 psi fills so the gas efficiency is pretty irrelevant.

*NOTE: hold your finger close to the valve because the bolt moves with full force towards the end of it's stroke!!