Lowering output...or something else?

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  • Derman2k
    MSG Regulators
    • Oct 2002
    • 896

    #1

    Lowering output...or something else?

    I have a Crossfire high output tank, and finding the sweetspot is not hard at all, its actually stupidly easy. I want to keep the manual function available just in case, so I don't want to take the rod out. Should I try different length on off pins? Or is there some way to lower the output pressure of my tank without buying another reg?
    My feedback...
    http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...threadid=59553
  • PyRo
    President Bioloaf inc.
    • Dec 2000
    • 10186

    #2
    You cannot ajust the output reg unless you get an ajustable reg tank. You can use a good aftermarket regulator, but then your going to be running a low pressure into the valve. I'm guessing you have an 850psi tank, which means you would want to set the reg around 650psi so that you have 200psi differance between all the regs.

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    • afrankart
      driving blindfolded
      • Jan 2003
      • 713

      #3
      If you have a .750 on/off pin (stock for X-valves and RT Pros), try getting ahold of a .755 pin. Check with AGD or Tunaman.
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      • athomas
        Of course it works-its AGD
        • Jan 2002
        • 8039

        #4
        You won't want to lower your tank output. The level 10 bolt assembly can cause the chamber pressure to reach about 600 psi at a 300fps velocity setting. That would mean you should have at least 800 psi into your mag in order to maintain a good rate of recharge.

        If you emag uses a .712" pin, maybe you can get one of the older .725" pins. I don't like to play with these things, but sometimes we have to in order to maintain tournament legal setups.
        Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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        • PyRo
          President Bioloaf inc.
          • Dec 2000
          • 10186

          #5
          I'm going to have to argue that the regs on the back of the mag drop the pressure to 400 or 475 (I forget which) or within the general range depending on yoru velocity settings. Therefore nomatter what your input pressure is as long as it is higher than what the reg drops it too your gun will work. Now, if its only 2psi higher yeah your going to get horrible shootdown, but if its atleast 200psi higher than the reg you should be fine. Plenty of people run retros and rt's around 650 because thats how they like the trigger and they have no problmes. I'm sure people with the x-vavle do the same thing.

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          • athomas
            Of course it works-its AGD
            • Jan 2002
            • 8039

            #6
            Pyro, the original front chamber pressure was about 400psi. The latest information is that the level 10 with the longer springs causes the front chamber pressures to be greatly increased. That is why many people are having recharge problems with their gun's input pressures turned down to less than 800psi.
            Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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            • PyRo
              President Bioloaf inc.
              • Dec 2000
              • 10186

              #7
              Ok, you win
              He never mentioned if he had a level 10 or not though.

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              • Derman2k
                MSG Regulators
                • Oct 2002
                • 896

                #8
                Yea, I have a level 10. I think I'll just try different length pins
                My feedback...
                http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...threadid=59553

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                • PyRo
                  President Bioloaf inc.
                  • Dec 2000
                  • 10186

                  #9
                  Damn u.

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