X-Valve not giving any trigger kick

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  • rav3nware
    GO NAVY!
    • May 2003
    • 31

    #1

    X-Valve not giving any trigger kick

    I put an X-Valve on my Micromag not too long ago, and while I've got the Level 10 working pretty reliably, my trigger isn't kicking like an RT valve should. What could be causing this? I am using a preset 48ci 3000psi Pure Energy tank, with a Benchmark double trigger frame.
    .quoth the rav3n.

  • rav3nware
    GO NAVY!
    • May 2003
    • 31

    #2
    I was just reading a thread by someone having the same problem as me - in case anyone would ask, my air's running through the Benchmark expansion chamber grip that comes stock on the micromag.
    .quoth the rav3n.

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    • ChucktheMAGician
      Back at it
      • Oct 2002
      • 1855

      #3
      There is probably a different length on/off pin in the X-Valve than what was in your Retro, especially if it came w/ the Micro.
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      • havoc531
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        • Sep 2003
        • 305

        #4
        Get an adjustable tank ands increase the input. Around 850 psi is ideal.
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        • rav3nware
          GO NAVY!
          • May 2003
          • 31

          #5
          From what I've heard, the XValves are pretty much identical to the Retros except a) they come w/ the Level 10 already on 'em, and b) they're made of aluminum instead of steel.

          Thanks for the tip, though. Someone else has suggested that to me as well, so next time I'm at the field I'll try to find someone who wouldn't mind letting me use their adjustable tank for a moment.
          .quoth the rav3n.

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          • rav3nware
            GO NAVY!
            • May 2003
            • 31

            #6
            One more question though, will the Benchy expansion chamber foregrip restrict my recharge rate any? The benefit's obvious with C02, but now that I'm running HPA is there even any point to having the expansion chamber? any input appreciated.
            .quoth the rav3n.

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            • TSalPaintball
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              • Aug 2003
              • 511

              #7
              There really isnt a point of having it, but it shouldent slow down the recharge rate at all.
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              • ChucktheMAGician
                Back at it
                • Oct 2002
                • 1855

                #8
                If it's the stock foregrip that comes w/ Micromags it's just a gas thru. I'd leave it if you already have the hoses run.
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                • Eric Cartman
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                  • Apr 2003
                  • 779

                  #9
                  Sounds like you just need to up the input pressure to the gun as havoc531 said. Between 850 and 950 works best for me. That being said, my brother just put his X valve into his mag (he's got a Benchmark grip frame as well). Even running at the same psi as my gun, his just doesn't feel "right". I wonder if the sloppiness of the Benchmark frame makes the reactivity feel less?

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                  • ChucktheMAGician
                    Back at it
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 1855

                    #10
                    Originally posted by rav3nware
                    From what I've heard, the XValves are pretty much identical to the Retros except a) they come w/ the Level 10 already on 'em, and b) they're made of aluminum instead of steel.
                    I was gonna comment on this earlier but didn't have the time. Using info found in this thread http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...threadid=67604 I assumed that the on/off in MicroRT valves would be shorter than that found in Retro or X-Valves. BlackVCG lists the Micro-E quite shorter than the E-Mags. From that I would think that all Retro/X-Valves running on a Micro body would need to be a little shorter to get the same results as the same valve and on/off set-up in a standard mag rail.
                    Last edited by ChucktheMAGician; 10-06-2003, 08:30 PM.
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                    • trxtr
                      MCC Scenario Paintball
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 129

                      #11
                      pin length

                      one more vote for pin length. Micro's are known for tolerance issues.
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                      • Z-man
                        You guys lost me
                        • Jul 2001
                        • 2202

                        #12
                        also be aware of the output pressure of your tank. That has a DRAMATIC effect on the bounce of the RT.


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                        • blakdragon21
                          Registered User
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 1038

                          #13
                          what do you mean z-man? I want my gun to rip like yours . so us the light z-man.

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                          • Z-man
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                            • Jul 2001
                            • 2202

                            #14


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                            • rav3nware
                              GO NAVY!
                              • May 2003
                              • 31

                              #15
                              I've gotten a bunch of replies on the on/off pin length issue... if that is something that I need to adjust, how do I go about getting that fixed? Is this something I would need to send my mag in to a professional to get done?
                              .quoth the rav3n.

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