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  • runningman
    bad dude
    • Mar 2002
    • 45

    #1

    xmag abnormalities

    over the weekend, i finally took my new xmag out to play. A few strange things bothered me about how it ran. First, despite running the previous day, it would not cycle in E mode. I turned it off and ran it in RT and it worked fine. I do not know why this happened.

    I switched it back to E mode then it worked fine. I then put the breech and barrel on. It would not fire. I unscrewed the barrel slightly and then it worked. I am not sure why this would happen either.

    Lastly, at the end of the day, while cleaining, I noticed that the breech had wear. On the top part of the side where the bolt is, the anno is worn away, but i see no evidence of wear on the bolt. Is this supposed to happen or is my breech misaligned.

    Overall, I love this gun, it was quick and never broke. I just have to find out why these little quirks exist.
    runningman

    X-mag 378
    Toxic 163
  • cgrieves

    #2
    Try using autosol to polish up the bolt surface. The level 10 so gentle that sometimes the slightest friction can prevent it from firing.

    If that doesn't help you can also try putting two strips of electrical tape under the sides of the breech module. I beleive the anodising process (which adds material to the aluminium surface) can cause the module to sit slightly too high or low, again causing friction with the level 10.

    Maybe try using the shortest spring to give the bolt a bit more force. Once the marker has "broken in" you can then go to the longest spring again.

    Once you have worn the marker in nicely you shouldn't have any more issues.

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    • C_22
      AO Mex?
      • Sep 2003
      • 216

      #3
      Hmm...

      Sometimes, during those in between game pauses when I refill air, etc. I have my Xmag with it's safety on, Halo off but the marker remians on. When I enter the field again and turn Halo back on and put the safety off and pull the trigger on E mode, usually it won't fire. All I do is switch to RT, fire one or two rounds and then switch back to E. Works all the time.

      Also, I had the exact same problem with the barrel and breech module. Without the barrel, the marker ould fire perfect but as soon as I screwed in the barrel (any barrel) it simply did not fire. What I did is simply tryed out different carriers until I found the biggest one that did not leak. That solved the problem.

      About wear in the breech, I found some too after the first weekend of play. But the last three weekends I ahve found none. I agree with cgrieves; the marker needs to be worn out a bit.

      Best of luck
      My "twins":

      Ironmen Matrix
      Red/Black DM4

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      • cgrieves

        #4
        Originally posted by C_22
        When I enter the field again and turn Halo back on and put the safety off and pull the trigger on E mode, usually it won't fire. All I do is switch to RT, fire one or two rounds and then switch back to E. Works all the time.
        Hmm, that is odd. Does the solenoid "tap" when the marker refuses to fire? Maybe the sear is somehow getting hung up on the safety, although I'd expect the trigger pull in mech mode to be really stiff if that were the case because the solenoid is pretty strong itself. Weird....

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        • C_22
          AO Mex?
          • Sep 2003
          • 216

          #5
          Not that is does not fire at all, it just does not fire the first two or three times I pull the trigger it just does not fire right away.

          After that it's working as it should.
          My "twins":

          Ironmen Matrix
          Red/Black DM4

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          • runningman
            bad dude
            • Mar 2002
            • 45

            #6
            I think I am seeing the same thing. I guess I'll let it break in and see if anything changes. It came with the shortest spring and I am using the 1.5 carrier. Beside these things, it runs great and I love it.
            runningman

            X-mag 378
            Toxic 163

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            • C_22
              AO Mex?
              • Sep 2003
              • 216

              #7
              Similar here 'xecpt I'm using 2.0 carrier.

              And I agree, the X-mag is awesome
              My "twins":

              Ironmen Matrix
              Red/Black DM4

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              • runningman
                bad dude
                • Mar 2002
                • 45

                #8
                im guessing your was in same batch as mine. was yours one of those crazy pattern ones? mine is plain dust red
                runningman

                X-mag 378
                Toxic 163

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                • C_22
                  AO Mex?
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 216

                  #9
                  LOL! Crazy patterns...

                  Mine's blue to silver fade polish (I belive it was #22 in pics fo that batch). It was orginaly intended to be a friends marker but I ended up keepieng it (grin...) and I was kinda worried about what color it was, but the pattern just looks great!
                  My "twins":

                  Ironmen Matrix
                  Red/Black DM4

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                  • bunkerhugger
                    www.SouthWestVooDoo.com
                    • Mar 2002
                    • 134

                    #10
                    Originally posted by C_22
                    Sometimes, during those in between game pauses when I refill air, etc. I have my Xmag with it's safety on, Halo off but the marker remians on. When I enter the field again and turn Halo back on and put the safety off and pull the trigger on E mode, usually it won't fire. All I do is switch to RT, fire one or two rounds and then switch back to E. Works all the time.
                    That problem can be cured by reducing the friction of the bolt stem. Larger carrier, more regular oiling, or polishing the bolt stem. Classic level 10 problem.

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                    • cgrieves

                      #11
                      Originally posted by bunkerhugger


                      That problem can be cured by reducing the friction of the bolt stem. Larger carrier, more regular oiling, or polishing the bolt stem. Classic level 10 problem.
                      What's the reason for the marker cycling in manual mode, but not in E-mode? I'd have thought that neither would work since they both actuate the sear?

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                      • Ghost24
                        GO TERPS!
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 85

                        #12
                        I started having similiar problems with my X-Mag after I upgraded to the 3.2 software. Never had a problem with version 2.1. RobAGD is going to reload 2.1 on it to see if the problem goes away.


                        X-Mag Black to Red Fade - Warped
                        RT Pro - Warped
                        "The Mags are back in town"

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                        • speedyfox666
                          Registered User
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 58

                          #13
                          I had the same thing with my X-mag.

                          The only solution I found untill now is that I have a very thin piece of plastic that I put on the base of the marker (with a hole in it to let the eye pass )

                          with this piece the removable breech is lifted a lilltle bit higher and the bolt doesn't touch the module anymore.

                          This works fine untill now but I hope to find a permanent solution for this.
                          tequila fade X-mag

                          member of the "Bumper Eater Revolution"

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                          • bunkerhugger
                            www.SouthWestVooDoo.com
                            • Mar 2002
                            • 134

                            #14
                            Originally posted by cgrieves


                            What's the reason for the marker cycling in manual mode, but not in E-mode? I'd have thought that neither would work since they both actuate the sear?
                            I believe the solenoid isn't strong enough to get the initial movement going, but that's guess work. I had the same problem, I posted it, AGD replied so I went back and tried the proposed solutions. It fixed it. I guess that AGD guy knows what he's talking about.

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