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  • JT3
    Registered User
    • Aug 2003
    • 16
    #1

    Stupid newb question.

    I've had my Automag RT for a few months now, and have yet to find the sweet-spot, or in fact feel ANY reactivity in the trigger. I currently have a Crossfire 68/3000 non-adjustable tank, and I've heard to get any decent reactivity, you need to be able to increase the input pressure more than standard screw-in tanks can usually provide, so... I just found a good NitroDuck 68/4500 tank with the MegaReg system for pretty cheap on eBay, and purchased it. That ought to allow me to increase my pressure to where I want it (plus, hopefully, give me a little longer play time between refills).

    Anyway, here's my newbee question:

    My air currently runs through my foregrip. I attach the tank line to the bottom of the grip, and at the top, another line runs to the gun. Sounds standard enough, right? What I don't know is... is this grip a simple pass-through grip, or is it acting as a separate regulator? How can I tell? I'd hate to find out that I'm adjusting the input pressure only to have it reduced by a regulator in the foregrip. I mean, I know that there's a regulator in the valve assembly, but I want to make sure that my pressure adjustments make it to THAT regulator, so that I can adjust the trigger reactivity.

    Does all this make sense? If not, someone please ask me some pointed questions that will drag the required information out of me.

    Bottom line... I want to be able to adjust the input pressure into my RT. What else do I need (or what should I NOT have) now that I have an adjustable tank?

    P.S. This gun came with a benchmark trigger frame that I've managed to set up with an "intellifeed-like" system to run my Revvy. Since I don't need the actual Intelliframe now for that purpose, I'd like to keep my BM frame... will that hurt my ability to feel any trigger reactivity? Should I spend the money for an IF frame after all?
    -JT3
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    • Cthulhu
      Induced Insanity- Team [c]
      • Oct 2003
      • 129
      #2
      That is just a gas through forgrip. No worries about it regulating your tank back down. Welcome to the wonderful world of mags...

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      An All AGD team in Central B.C. on its way. -- Tom Kaye, plz help!
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      • Dayspring
        aka- The Day Wang

        • May 2001
        • 9664
        #3
        The question is, what type of reactivity were you looking for? If it's kicking the trigger back out, then it's doing it's job.

        Sweetspotting is actually illegal in play and is a technical malfunction of the gun.

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          • Cthulhu
            Induced Insanity- Team [c]
            • Oct 2003
            • 129
            #4
            Actually, the rules are loosening on that up here Dayspring. The last tournament I went to, I showed the refs my emag ripping on "runaway" RT only mode and they thought it was the coolest thing.. I asked if it was against the rules, "If you want to pay for the paint yer gonna shoot like that, not at all"

            Cheers

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            An All AGD team in Central B.C. on its way. -- Tom Kaye, plz help!
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            • Dayspring
              aka- The Day Wang

              • May 2001
              • 9664
              #5
              That's there... But more organized tournies- IAO, NPPL have some VERY strict rules about that.

              Good fields also have problems with it as well.

              Not saying that you don't participate in those, but I'm going from rules in the big tournies/fields.

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                • Cthulhu
                  Induced Insanity- Team [c]
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 129
                  #6
                  Tru tru. They also jump on electro bounce tho too.

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                  An All AGD team in Central B.C. on its way. -- Tom Kaye, plz help!
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                  • JT3
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 16
                    #7
                    Honestly, I'm just looking for ANY reactivity. There truly is none with my current setup. I mean, I'm not saying it doesn't feel different than, say, shooting a spyder, but there really is ZERO kickback. I'm just looking to have the option.

                    Sure, in tournaments, I'll have the input pressure turned down so that it fires normally, but as many have said, there's nothing like the walk-ons' reaction when you let loose with a good runaway burst. Properly configured, I should be able to have it both ways, and that's what I'm looking for.

                    At any rate, my whole purpose of this thread was to find out if there's anything I should know about switching from a non-adjustable screw-in tank to a good adjustable tank. I was pretty sure that my foregrip was a simple pass-through, but I don't know how to tell. I also don't know what effect, if any, that my BM frame will have on my reactivity quest.
                    -JT3

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                      • onakone
                        www.warsow.net
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 501
                        #8
                        One word......Intelliframe!!! I have a PMI preset tank running at an even 800psi and can sweetspot almost effortlessly. I shot a mag with a benchy once and hated it.
                        If you get an intelli you won't regret it, they are very nice frames.
                        And don't believe this bull about sweetspotting hurting your gun, there are a good number of people on these boards that will vouch for sweetspotting, and claim they do it all the time no problems (myself included). After all isn't that what makes the rt so much fun?
                        MYfeedback:
                        http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=97936

                        http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=391631

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                          • Dayspring
                            aka- The Day Wang

                            • May 2001
                            • 9664
                            #9
                            Keep doing it. Check your bolt and sear in a few months of doing it then tell me I was wrong.

                            By sweetspotting, you're not resetting the bolt back to full lock. That means the sear and the bolt will rub and eventually chip.

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                              • 68magOwner
                                Registered User
                                • May 2003
                                • 3475
                                #10
                                Ive heard that it wolnt chip till about 50,000 shots sweetspoting

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