bad weekend with emag >:|

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  • rikkter
    • Jun 2002
    • 1804

    #1

    bad weekend with emag >:|

    so yeah. 2 weeks ago i got karta, worked perfect. last weekend worked perfect. th is weekend. hell.
    so with the karta on the emag and it working fine, i eliminated it being the problem of my hellish weekend.

    i chopped like mad.
    and i still dont know why.
    level 10 has 1line 1 dot as carrier, 1 shim. stock spring as level 10.
    things i've tried to change to stop chopping:

    scepter barrel kit, tried .686, .688, and .690 inserts.
    tried different velocities
    different springs/level 10 setups
    different tank inputs
    new batteries in halo
    different barrel all together
    different paint.
    different ball detents
    different tank all together
    battery WAS charged all the way

    i checked to see if there was any flaws or chips in breech, halo neck, or barrel or threads, nothing anywhere.

    suggestions?
    viking #619
  • Dayspring
    aka- The Day Wang

    • May 2001
    • 9664

    #2
    You're sure it's chops and not barrel breaks right?

    (Not being condescending, just giving us a point of reference.)

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    • Big'n slo
      Sponsored by...my paycheck
      • Mar 2003
      • 1909

      #3
      I'm with day on this one.
      The EXACT same thing happened to me this passed season, I checked everything but still my maker made soup all day. I finally found that I had lost the barrel O ring on my Scepter kit.

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      • rikkter
        • Jun 2002
        • 1804

        #4
        sorry, forgot to mention that
        its weird tho, like when i break, and look, the paint starts like, a little after the barrel starts, so its kinda like a barrel break, but i'm not sure, since theres paint and all that on the bolt and such. but i just ran outside and cleaned everything and tried it, and its like, it breaks right after the ball detents, right when it enters the barrel.
        the scepter still has the oring, and odens't seem to have any flaws. could the barrel by sitting a little sideways and causing this?

        edit: it'd chop if i tried to shoot fast, i ran manual most of the day and it seemd to work fine that way if i didn't try to shoot too fast
        viking #619

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        • Big'n slo
          Sponsored by...my paycheck
          • Mar 2003
          • 1909

          #5
          your scepters got an Oring on the threaded end of the tip and the base correct?

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          • Dayspring
            aka- The Day Wang

            • May 2001
            • 9664

            #6
            Oring? Scepter? No such thing.

            And it's possibly the paint you were shooting was a .692 and is still breaking in the barrel.

            Check and make sure your spring isn't broken either.

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            • rikkter
              • Jun 2002
              • 1804

              #7
              oring on both ends, tip and back.

              day, you saying no oring is suppose to be on the scepter? i can take it off and try again.

              the springs are good, i've tried 3 different springs.
              the paint i used would fall through the .690, thats why i went that high. first paint was midnights, would fit the .687 or the smallest one i have, but the blaze i bought, it would fall through my smallest insert.
              viking #619

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              • Dayspring
                aka- The Day Wang

                • May 2001
                • 9664

                #8
                On the tip there is one, but not the back-- not on any I've ever seen.

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                • rikkter
                  • Jun 2002
                  • 1804

                  #9
                  hm.

                  this the only thing you think would be causing it? it was a LITTLE cold but i was the only one having problems, and there was a xmag and 2 other emags there
                  viking #619

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                  • Tunaman
                    Specialized AGD Tech

                    • Dec 2000
                    • 8643

                    #10
                    Put the stock body back on and try it. Then you just may have your answer. It it still does it, make sure to do a drop test on the paint. Might just be a crap batch.
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                    Tunamart

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                    • Big'n slo
                      Sponsored by...my paycheck
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 1909

                      #11
                      Originally posted by rikkter
                      oring on both ends, tip and back.
                      Shoots my theory in the butt.

                      My scepter chopped like mad without the back oring on.

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                      • rikkter
                        • Jun 2002
                        • 1804

                        #12
                        well i just took the oring out, and ripped on it in back yard and seemed to work fine, but its 'short stroking' in emode.. battery has a good charge to it too. but, it was short stroking since i had less than 1000 psi so.
                        viking #619

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                        • Dayspring
                          aka- The Day Wang

                          • May 2001
                          • 9664

                          #13
                          What's your input pressure? Just curious.

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                          • Branchvillian
                            The one with the E-Mag
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 775

                            #14
                            This happened to me at the chrono at the most recent GPL event. Complete meltdown...I was pissed because it took me forever to fix. I am not sure exactly what I did to fix it, but I did take the detent and unscrew it a little bit. I also changed my factory cut AGD middle spring, and put in a spare middle spring I had. It started working after that.

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                            • rikkter
                              • Jun 2002
                              • 1804

                              #15
                              well, i was changing the input from 600, to 800, all inbetween, up to 1000, down to 500. i tried everything ;\
                              viking #619

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