What do the different springs do?

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  • blakdragon21
    Registered User
    • Jun 2003
    • 1038

    #1

    What do the different springs do?

    Does it really matter what spring you use? I heard that you are suppose to use the middle spring, but I seem to have trouble getting the vavle to work without bolt stick with the middle spring I have to use the small spring. I also heard that the different spring are for like different kinds of paint too. I don't know. If someone can clarify what all the springs are for it would be cool. thanks
  • Big_Chops
    Big_Chops get fat diet
    • May 2003
    • 757

    #2
    small=indoor big=outdoor velocity. i think. well i thought i read that somewhere or someone told me this.

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    • ChucktheMAGician
      Back at it
      • Oct 2002
      • 1855

      #3
      The smaller spring is often not as soft on paint(not meaning that it will chop because several use it trouble free) it is also more effecient allowing you more shots per fill.
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      • athomas
        Of course it works-its AGD
        • Jan 2002
        • 8039

        #4
        None of the springs should cause bolt stick. Bolt stick is an issue with the carrier setup being too tight. The smaller spring will allow the bolt to overcome the bolt stick which is why it seems to go away when you use it.

        The use of different springs depends on your gun setup. Once you find the proper carrier setup, use the largest bolt spring that allows you to fire the gun in the velocity range you want. Don't forget to turn the regulator pressure up (increase the velocity setting) on the back of the mag valve if you go to a larger spring.
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        • jewie27
          Senior Member
          • May 2001
          • 1275

          #5
          Originally posted by Big_Chops
          small=indoor big=outdoor velocity. i think. well i thought i read that somewhere or someone told me this.
          That's a negative on that one. In Automags the spring does NOT control the velocity! The regulator in the back of the valve does. The springs are used to return the bolt after it's been fired. In the Level 10 system the longer the spring is, the harder it will pust the bolt back; making it softer or more gentle on paintballs. Using the longest spring will be the softest on paintballs, but may cause the gun to not fire because of the strong resistance. If you get bolt stick, try the medium spring. The medium spring works perfectly for most people. One last note: Re-Chrono after changing springs since it affects the force applied to the bolt.

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          • jewie27
            Senior Member
            • May 2001
            • 1275

            #6
            Originally posted by jewie27


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            • Branchvillian
              The one with the E-Mag
              • Aug 2003
              • 775

              #7
              Jewie-While you do not use the springs to change velocity, the different springs will affect your velocity, and where you can get it. You may have some trouble getting your velocity under 300fps with the biggest spring.

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              • Evil1
                Registered User
                • Nov 2003
                • 979

                #8
                I get my velocity as low as 263fps w/ the big spring w/ 1 coil cut off using the spacer w/ no marks on it and inputting 850psi from a ND XStream 68/45.

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                • jewie27
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2001
                  • 1275

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Branchvillian
                  You may have some trouble getting your velocity under 300fps with the biggest spring.
                  You mean above! Since the spring pushes the bolt back, you have to turn up the velocity with the biggest spring. You may also get bolt stick.

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                  • coolcatpete
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                    • Jun 2003
                    • 1532

                    #10
                    hey Jewie why do you always attach th LX thing, just put it in your sig.
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                    • athomas
                      Of course it works-its AGD
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 8039

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jewie27


                      You mean above! Since the spring pushes the bolt back, you have to turn up the velocity with the biggest spring. You may also get bolt stick.
                      Bolt stick is more a result of a carrier that is too tight.

                      The longer (stiffer) bolt spring changes the characteristics of the power output from the bolt/chamber of the mag. The longer bolt spring shifts the chamber operating pressure range to a higher value. This in turn increases the operating velocity range as well. Therefore, the minimum velocity setting will be quite a bit higher than when you are using a shorter (softer) bolt spring. In some guns (depending on the barrel setup) you may not be able to get the gun to fire below the required safe velocity. In these cases, you will have to move to one of the shorter springs to move the velocity range to a lesser value. Many people use the middle spring because it seems to offer a good operating range and a soft hit while maintaining reliable operation.
                      Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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