darn flatline shootdown

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  • thecavemankevin
    the living un-banned
    • Feb 2001
    • 4346

    #1

    darn flatline shootdown

    i have a 4500 flatline that has been giving me headaches.

    I recently replaced the reg seat when one of the originals when bad. I replaced it with one of the newer style seats that are supose to be harder and last longer.

    well then after to refills that started to spike. Now i have another one, but i cleaned and oiled the one that was still in it. It was no longer spiking, however the gauge will drop by 200-300 psi after one single shot. It will bounce back almost imediatly. However, in a string of shots it will drop to the point LX starts to kick in and wont fire right. I throw my 4500 max flo on there and that has no problems what so ever keeping up with my xmag.

    I really love the light weight and compact style of my flatline, but it is really starting to piss me off.

    please help


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  • Lethargic
    is tired...
    • Dec 2002
    • 416

    #2
    My 68/3000 did that for a while too. I ended up replacing all the o-rings and got a new spring pack from AGD. I'm not sure exactly what part was not working right, but after replacing all of them, it perked right back up.
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    • BlackVCG
      Grubby Owner

      • Oct 2000
      • 4956

      #3
      I'd go through the whole system and replace the on/off o-ring (those can shrink in size and create a flow restriction) and grease the piston and replace that o-ring.

      Sometimes the spring pack can be binding and causing issues, so I end up replacing those too.
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      • thecavemankevin
        the living un-banned
        • Feb 2001
        • 4346

        #4
        are any of the parts from a regualr rt parts kit interchangable with the flatline? I also don't see a parts kit for the 45 will i have to buy all the parts by themselves?


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        • BlackVCG
          Grubby Owner

          • Oct 2000
          • 4956

          #5
          The piston o-ring is the same between all AGD pistons.

          The on/off o-ring is the same as the RT on/off top urethane o-ring.
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          • thecavemankevin
            the living un-banned
            • Feb 2001
            • 4346

            #6
            cool, thanx black

            i will have to try that tomorrow


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            • lamby
              A.K.A Spanker
              • Oct 2002
              • 394

              #7
              My flatline has had major shootdown twice. The first time there were metal shavings everywhere that had to get cleaned out. the second was the reg seat. I take mine apart and clean and grease it about every 2 months or so (about 10 cases) It is part on my pre large tourney checkup.

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              • thecavemankevin
                the living un-banned
                • Feb 2001
                • 4346

                #8
                ok, replaced the piston o-ring and the reg seat and still having the same masive shoot down, plus now it will only let me set it at either 0 or 8/900 psi, nothing in between. And only like 1-2cm turn in the adjuster makes this psi change.

                so i want to change the on/off, but how do i take the rest appart.

                i know i have to degass it, but i am not sure how to take car of the on/off


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                • spectra260
                  Registered User
                  • Jun 2001
                  • 132

                  #9
                  Hey I think my flatline has the same problem. I noticed when I first got it off ebay that when I shoot the psi on the guage drops like 200-300 too. I thought thats just what its supposed to do but im guessing its not after reading this thread. I have also been having problems getting it to fire right, somtimes the whole gun will just stop shootin and take a while to recock or it just wont at all. Also it somtimes shoots not far.

                  How do I fix this? Just buy the flatline parts kit?


                  also is there anywhere that shows how to take apart your flatline and all to clean it/replace parts?
                  Last edited by spectra260; 02-07-2004, 10:54 PM.

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                  • thecavemankevin
                    the living un-banned
                    • Feb 2001
                    • 4346

                    #10
                    well, mine seems to be working after replacing the on/off oring. Not sure because i have barely had a chance to test it.

                    what type of flatline do you have, the parts kit is just for the 3000lb tanks.

                    there is a real nice article that will show you how to dissasemble the flatline either 3k or 4.5k on warpig.


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                    • billmi
                      Tech Editor - WARPIG.com
                      • May 2001
                      • 810

                      #11
                      One article, two regs, no waiting.

                      It covers both the 3,000 and 4,500 systems with complete disassembly.



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                      • BlackVCG
                        Grubby Owner

                        • Oct 2000
                        • 4956

                        #12
                        This is the forum for trouble shooting your Airgun Designs products, including the Automag, RT, E-Mag, and WarpFeed. Also a great place to ask technical questions about non AGD products. An Airsmith's homeroom!
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                        • thecavemankevin
                          the living un-banned
                          • Feb 2001
                          • 4346

                          #13
                          well, she seems to be working on my speed.

                          I think it was the on/off that was restricting the flow.

                          I replace the the piston oring and the reg seat and cleaned it up. Still suffering from shoot down. I then replaced the on/off oring and it seems to be working, for the moment anyways

                          thanx for all your help guys


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