Autococker Problem

[paintballman333]

Ok guys I have a 2k1 STO cocker with an eclipse blade trigger frame that I am having a problem with and I have no idea what im doing.

The problem is: When I first air up the gun and then cock it the gun cycles and everything for the first shot and it shoots but then the trigger doesnt re-set itself. It just says back and I have to push it forward again, to shoot it again. I have a constant air pressure so no need to worry about that. If anyone knows whats up or have some advice I would really appreciate it. Thanks

[lunatickyle007]

Autococker suck stick to automags my friend

[angelbeast24]

lunatick he asked for help not to hear you bash him.

well my friend im not to much of a cocker guy but im goin to try and help you out best i can. it seems to me that ur trigger pull is to long allowing it not to reset it self

[argnot]

First I wanna say lunatickyle007 that is the most ignorant thing you could have said for your first post. I suggest you straighten up your act or your time here at AO will be real short. Take your **** some place else. Alright time to help. Couple issues. Your LPR pressure could be to high if it adjustable. Your bolt o-rings may have swelled. Turn down the pressure if you can. Take off the orings and try again. If you are still having issues then LMK I am pretty good with em. AIM me at Allegeddragoon and I will help you some more if that doesnt fix it.

[FlameboyC11]

I agree with the above poster. Also, if that doesn't work, I'd head over to www.air-powered.com We are kind of a small community, but a well known one in the autococker world. Lots of techs hang out there and they can probabily answer any future questions you have =)

[paintballman333]

Well the thing is that my LPR isnt adjustable and neither is my tank. I will try to adjust my trigger and I will try that site you gave me Flameboy. Thanks and UP!

[bokraham]

did you try retiming it? sounds like a problem with the cocking rod.

[AkumA]

its the timming rod, well sounds like it.

if you don't know how to time a cocker, get it over to an airsmith (most fields have an airsmith that know how to time them. cost around here is $10). if you installed the frame just recently without timming, that would be a result in it being untimed.

once thats done, DON"T MESS WITH IT!!!

OR...

you can read up on HOW to time your cocker. thats what i did after spending some dough. after reading up on how to, full tank of gas, and an untimed cocker, i got it down pretty good. once you think you have timming down, try disseasembling the ram, LPR, 4way, timming rod, pump arm, ect. and re time it.

practice practice practice.

[lamby]

let me verify.. You have an eclipse frame is this an e-frame or an older manual one. I am new to cockers, but I do have one and I know what I am doing with an e-frame

If yout trigger is not re-cocking with an e-frame you need to add a magnet in the frame to increase tension.

If your trigger is not resetting on a manual cocker, you either have a trigger rod adjustment problem, mis timed 3-way or a bad 3-way. I am not a manual cocker guy ( I hate them). So I am not your best source of info on this aspect of cockers.

In my eyes when it comes to cockers.. give me a e-frame, or give me a different gun

[paintballman333]

Thanks for the ideas but mine is the manual trigger frame so if you have anymore opinions or ideas I would really appreciate it. Thanks

[lamby]

ok, a manual... Again I am not that much a manual guy so there is not that much I can tell you.

There are two things I would check first:

With no air in the marker, and the hammer forward does the trigger return forward after pulling it? If the answer to this is no then you have a problem in the trigger frame (prob disconnected return spring) the trigger is what moves the 3-way, not the 3-way moving the trigger.

I think that this is what your problem is. If the marker fires fine once, and will fire again after you push the trigger forward there is a trigger spring problem. Second thought.. if this was the case, the back block should come back until you push the trigger forward... HUMMMMMMM you might have multiple problems

If the trigger returns fine the problem is not with the frame but is prob a timing issue. here is a link for a good timing site: http://www.ottersccustoms.com/ac-timing.html Read that site and time your cocker. If you are not comfortable doing this, you will have to pay a airsmith to fix it for you.

if you need a spring, here is alink from 888 http://www.888paintball.com/product....PP+AC+45F+SP+K

If you want to shoot cockers, it is nice to know how they work so either way you should read the URL above.

[Gudmann]

Don't know if it will help, but I once used a friends cocker that had a trigger that wouldn't come back forward.

That turned out to be a badly lubed 3-way.

Way to tell, if slighty touching the timing rod and giving it a side to side movement causes it to slide into the 3-way,

And it never hurts to oil the 3-way a little and see if that helps..

but I am not a cocker tech.....so I don't know much...

[CaliMagFan]

trigger return spring

well i am using an sto from 2k or 2k1 i think and i have the same issue... well i think i do.... when i fire the trigger will lsometimes stick back... i can kind of flick at it, and it will pop back... i guess a lot of sto cocker owners got the good idea that shortening the trigger return spring was a hot idea and could let them shoot faster, then thing is that the spring cannot move the clunky cocker triggers back into place.. oh well... you might just need a new spring.... take off the grip frame, take off the grip covers, stickies or wahtever they are, then look at that spring that will be in the rear of the frame.. tahts most likely your culprit, like lamby said, its the trigger that moves the 3 way, not the reverse... you can try a spring from most ink pens that you have lying around... they are normally the right tension... but of course i reccomend buying the real deal at the local shop.... good luck

-kyro

[Remake101]

Just like to say Cockers do suck.... You should stick to automags.... I had a classic automag for 7 years running CO2 on it and never once had a problem with it.... I recently got a new ULE mechanical mag(I think electronics are cheap)
But it sounds like the problem is internal and your gonna have to replace some parts. That means you have to take it into the shop. I know that sucks and you have to pay a ****load of money, but that cant be helped. Shoulda gotten a mag.

[argnot]

Originally posted by Remake101
Just like to say Cockers do suck.... You should stick to automags.... I had a classic automag for 7 years running CO2 on it and never once had a problem with it.... I recently got a new ULE mechanical mag(I think electronics are cheap)
But it sounds like the problem is internal and your gonna have to replace some parts. That means you have to take it into the shop. I know that sucks and you have to pay a ****load of money, but that cant be helped. Shoulda gotten a mag.

This is retarded. You aren't helping him. Why bother even posting.....? You obviously know nothing about cockers so you really should stick to helping people fix thier mags.