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  • bokraham
    Registered User
    • Jan 2004
    • 272

    #1

    which to go with co2?

    I want to ditch my remote and get a drop forward, but I also want my minimag to run well on co2. My options are to get just a palmer side line stabalizer, a sideline stabalizer and 4 stage x chamber, or just a regular palmer stabalizer. Which one should I get and why?
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    that is such a chipmunk mentality
  • TheFlamingKoosh
    I'm No Longer On Fire
    • Mar 2002
    • 1710

    #2
    First get an Anti-Siphon tube installed on your CO2 tank... That will fix about 70% of any problems you'll have right there.

    Then get a Sideline Stabilizer, and you'll be set. The Sideline stab is the exact same as a normal stabilizer, but its usually cheaper, and it allows you to use a more comfy forgrip then the male stabilizer.

    But seriously, the Anti-Siphon tube will fix pretty much any problem. I run an Anti siphon 20oz co2 tank going to a sideline stabilizer... When I ran out of air on my 20 oz last weekend I switched to my regular 12 oz tank, while the stabilizer helped, the gun definately froze over alot faster then it ever did with the AS 20 oz...

    Just my two cents, I've been running Co2 like this on my mag for a year now, no real problems.


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    • bokraham
      Registered User
      • Jan 2004
      • 272

      #3
      anti siphon is out of the picture for sure. about the coao day I'll definitly be there. I live in steamboat springs.
      that is such a chipmunk mentality

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      • trains are bad
        Registered User
        • Oct 2003
        • 1751

        #4
        Out of the picture? IMO anti-siphon is REQUIRED for any horizontal bottle setup.

        I switched to my regular 12 oz tank, while the stabilizer helped, the gun definately froze over alot faster then it ever did with the AS 20 oz...
        That's partly because the 12oz tank is smaller and smaller tanks do that worse. For best results run a 20 or bigger even if you don't need that many shots.
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        • spyder_strypes
          shoots a mag
          • Aug 2003
          • 279

          #5
          Stick with an anti-siphon tube, and ditch the stablizer altogether. Sure, it's a great reg for CO2, but you should never have a reg between your air source and valve on a mag.
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          • electriceel125
            Golden Gun 009
            • Nov 2003
            • 875

            #6
            I run an antipiphon 20oz with an ACI 6 stage x chamber and it works great. If your gonna get a stabalizer get the sideline since its max output is 950psi wich is more than enough for an AIR valve. Ive never had anyproblems with my gun freezing in cold temps.

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            • bokraham
              Registered User
              • Jan 2004
              • 272

              #7
              Originally posted by spyder_strypes
              Stick with an anti-siphon tube, and ditch the stablizer altogether. Sure, it's a great reg for CO2, but you should never have a reg between your air source and valve on a mag.
              the sideline is an expansion chamber of some sort. In the first stage it turns the liquid into gas, and the second stage it regulates it from anywhere from 0-950, so if I make it's output pressure above 800 it would work perfect with my mag, while at the same time making the A.I.R. have to do less work.


              I am interested in anti-siphon. I didn't think that it was good because a friend of mine says that it acts like a straw if liqid co2 gets into it. What does it do?
              that is such a chipmunk mentality

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              • electriceel125
                Golden Gun 009
                • Nov 2003
                • 875

                #8
                The anti siphon tube is very good. It stays at the top of the tank to keep the liquid out. The tank is usually pretty level so it keeps the liquid out. That is why you dont use a remote with an anti siphon tube. If you dont turn the gun straight up an anti siphon tube will work wonders. Its worth the 7 or so bucks to get one put in.

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                • TheFlamingKoosh
                  I'm No Longer On Fire
                  • Mar 2002
                  • 1710

                  #9
                  Yeah, after you install an AS tube, you can basically only use that tank for that ASA, forever. Just make a mark on the valve which way is "up" and then make sure that never faces "down" and you won't have to worry about it becoming a siphon tube...
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                  • DeerChaser
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2001
                    • 182

                    #10
                    I would say stay with the remote. If your going to spend all this money for Co2 then just buy a cheap HPA tank.

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                    • bokraham
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 272

                      #11
                      they don't have HPA fills where i'm from. and only one place supplys co2.
                      that is such a chipmunk mentality

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                      • argnot
                        I can do anything
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 725

                        #12
                        Go with the AS and expansion. you should have next to no worries. Doesn't really matter that you can only use it on the one gun. All my guns have thier own tanks with extras. Plus it happens to be that my as tank can run on more then one gun by chance.
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                        • trains are bad
                          Registered User
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 1751

                          #13
                          Plus it happens to be that my as tank can run on more then one gun by chance.
                          Yeah I have 3 markers and I'm really lucky b/c i can run the same tanks on all three. One has a female stab I was able to rotate.
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                          • warbeak2099
                            That is my foot!
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 4447

                            #14
                            Adding an anti-siphon line, palmers sideline, and x-chamber would provide optimum performance. However as others have stated it's not neccesary. If you just get an anti-siphon line with any palmers, you should be fine.
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                            • MSB304
                              Registered User
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 15

                              #15
                              Anti-siphon explained and how to here... http://www.docsmachine.com/tech/siphon.html
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