When will I out shoot my Hopper?

[Bartleby]

yes i have an answer. maybe it wasn't the board that had an issue with the sunlight, maybe it was just the eye? i could be which would explain it and possibly open up some question on the xboards, like pyro said.

[AMGuy]

it was the board since they sell upgrade x boards that get rid of the delay

here is a previous post of mine that still wasnt answered:

well right now I have a 68 mag powerfeed with the dealyed boards, so for now I dont think it will be a problem.

but eventually I will probably upgrade to retro and later intelliframe with intellifeed

i heard that if you intelli feed a delayed hopper, the delay doesnt exist, when you pull the trigger, it spins immidiatly just like the pre brass eagle revies would. I guess this would make sense since it is totally bipassing the infared. Can anyone back this up?

And have any tests been done to test the feed speed of an intelli revy?

Oh yeah and one more question, what do you think my max ROF will be with a retro + intelli frame and feed?

thx guys

:)

[LeadBasedPaint]

Originally posted by PyRo
X boards are probably just the original boards that didn't have the delay.

Thats exactly what they are. Unless you mean the old boards, as in old.

[PyRo]

Original boards and x boards feed at the same rate. Only slower ones are the ones in the middle with the delay.

[AMGuy]

yes I know, now does anyone have an answer to my question?
(sry If I sould like a jerk, im really not trying to )

[markhauguel]

The max ROF of any hopper of this type is 11.7 bps if working perfectly. This is due to gravity and the size of a paintball. This is only for the balls in the feed tube. This is where the delay comes into play. The feed rate will be a lot less as the hopper empties and the balls get batted around by the blades. Nothing can make a gravity hopper feed faster. Some are more consistant than others. To feed any faster you have to force the balls into the gun like a warp feed or halo (someday) will. The bps calculation is the time it takes a ball to accelerate from standing still and move .68 inches at 32 fps/s (gravity). This makes the assumption that there is no stick to the next ball or the feed tube and the drop is vertical. I hope this helps, good luck.

[Restola]

i shot my gun next to my microphone and recorded it, and found my bursts hit 10bps. since i got my new parabolic feedplug i havent had any mid-stream chops. for some reason usually its the second one that breaks (probably me shortstroking right away).

and yes if you have intellifeed every time you pull the trigger it closes a switch and as long as you hold down the trigger the paddles will spin, no delay. it spins about 1 turn every trigger pull, give or take based on speed and ball resistance.

[Drizit]

have a look at this

http://www.warpig.com/paintball/technical/loaders/lineup/index.shtml

[blockarm50]

xboard

i have heard that the xboard can feed up to 14 bps

[[NA]WARLORD]

why not scrap the x-board and buy the turbo board from Smart Parts. its faster, but pricer than x, but if your looking for speed, theres your answer, unless moneys no object team it with a warp feed, or spend 150.00 on new halo.

[PyRo]

Think whatever you want :)

[[NA]WARLORD]

Hey Pyro, is there any reason to back that up? Or ya just being a little fecicuos? I would like to find out if you know something i dont so i can save some money in the long run, not trying to start anything tho.....

[markhauguel]

Pyro has it right. Gravity causes the balls to fall not the agitator. Stirring up the balls only makes sure that they are not stuck. The agitation only makes the stream of balls more consistant but not faster. The delay when they do get stuck is a separate issue but, falling faster than 11-12 is gravity driven. This is why no one promises more than that. Tom has done tests with the RT fire rate and that is why we have the warp. Drop hoppers can only go so fast. The halo if ever out is a force feed hopper like the warp is and will go faster.

[PyRo]

I'm just saying there is no differance in feed rate between the original boards, and the new X-boards. The reason they have the x-boards, is because they messed up and replaced the original ones with ones that have a delay.

[AMGuy]

let me stat my q this way:
will the delay cause me to chop alot more in rapid fire?