X-valve won't fit

[RRfireblade]

my understanding

Is generally inaccurate or somewhat incomplete. :)


It really doesn't matter,I shouldn't have even went that far.It's obviously a disagreement based largely on personal bias and semantics which will never amount to anything.

I'm out.

[LockNLoad]

Oh really?

Is generally inaccurate or somewhat incomplete. :)

If you're going to make this statement you should at least back it up with some facts. Drop some of your knowledge, and back up your statement.:)

Or do you lack the facts?

[Potatoboy]

That's why you can put any mag rail on any other mag.......
All rails but the RT rail are compatable with the proper sear assembly for that rail.

any mag valve in any other mag.......
All valves but the RT valve are compatable and made to identical dimensions.

any mag on/off asembly in any other mag valve......
You can swap any and all on/off assemblies. They will all work, just some not so well due to differences in the original valve's indended use. (ULT in classic or emag for example)

any Mag sear in any other mag......
Sears are interchangable and made to the same specifications excluding the type of axle pivot, which was changed for ease of assembly.

any currently available "upgrade' in any mag......
not sure where you're going with this one, so I'll disregard it.

Why AGD offers on/off pins in every concievable size.....
AGD pin sizes were mostly created due to long term wear on rails, or customer modifications, such as reanno or painting. The pin size adjusts for tolerances that have come out of spec.

Why AGD still offers 5 different P/T spacers.....
Why the L10 comes with a hundred (est) combinations of shims and carrier sizes in order to make it work in every Mag.....
above two can be answered as one point
Orings are not perfect. No oring manufacturer promises the same exact size each time. This is a problem when dealing with tight tolerances, and carriers and spacers exist to again, pull up the slack caused by the variation in orings.

Why the ULT upgrade comes with half a dozen of it's own shims and you still sometimes need more.....
The ULT shims are adjustment for personal preference of trigger pull and nothing else.

Why AGD still sells the "Superbolt".....not.....
I'm not sure why you bring this up here, but yes, it was a failed product, has been discontinued, and anyone with a bolt was offered a refund towards a level 10 which is based around the same properties of a lighter bolt.

Why every software version available has come w/ at least one glitch from the factory.....
The only factory supplied glitch version was 3.0, this was fixed swiftly with 3.2, and 3.0 markers were reflashed.

Why some people have valves that aren't engraved properly in their Xmags.....
All of these people were offered a discount, or the ability to wait for a proper valve. If you declied, it was your fault not AGD's

[RRfireblade]

Hmm,
This really wasn't the point......

(Editted because I don't wish to get into a debate over sematics,the point I was simply making is different mags require different specs as they relate to on/off pin lengths and shims and spacers and not always due to wear but do to minor variances from gun to gun or changes as models evolve over time)


FYI,
This is/was not a slam at AGD,just to prove a point that specs due vary over time and through periods of production.In the case of PTP,your talking about hand made,hand assembled markers made in extremely small runs and due to variations in machining can and due vary over time,I don't argue that,it's true of any machined product.Micros were never ment to interchange part for part with every other Mag out there and it's unfair for people to expect them to.Look at the first runs of Xmags from AGDE for example.It's also unfair to expect them all to be produced to be absolutely identical to every other one when they are built in such small quantities over long periods of time.Back in the day,if you wanted a "custom" mag,PTP was there and offered a true "Custom Mag".If you wanted mass production you could always go stock. And lastly,just because there are minor variations over time,does not mean that they are "sloppy" or "incorrect",the fact is that some parts of the gun are actually "Tighter" in some specs than stock Mags.The breech and the valve pocket for instance.The fact they they are hand assembled and hand tuned individually is perfectly acceptable unless you randomly swap around parts from various sources.

Try putting a stock Harley tank on a O.C.C. bike.....I guess they are just built "incorrect" also.