Why paintballs? and not Paint bullets?

[tbr13]

Hi,

I have been an avid rec baller for over 7 years and I have been really interested in paintball technology as it has evolved.
What I don't understand though is after all these years and with all this technology going into our electro pneumatic markers there has yet to be paint bullets introduced to the general public.
There is an inherent design flaw in gelatin Balls.

From what information I have gathered a bullet shaped paint glob would far excell in accuracy, distance, consistent breakage, and velocity.

I read in Tom's tech tips that AGD did design a paint bullet for the military.

Why hasn't the consumer markets been notified and how come the paintball/marker manufacturers exploited this obvious enhancement to the game?

[Chef123161]

Main forum...

Goto the main forum and goto the "AGD Super Tour Video Online" thread stickied to the top. Then look at the clips. One is of the military paintballs. Look at the dents on the door. Would you like to be hit with one of those? I wouldnt.

[SGTKennedy]

cost issues for the retooling of the paint manufacturers?
i think a paintbullet would probably link paintball with more undesirable things and set the game back in Public Affairs.
A bullet would also take a different hopper design, a bullet is one directional, a ball can load any way and fire the same.
Anyway, who wants to say, yeah im going to go out to play paintbullet.
Kennedy.

[Miscue]

They have football shaped ones. It would be expensive to make, an entirely different feed system would be needed... various issues... but would be cool to see.

[tbr13]

An entirely new feed system is exactly what we need.
In case you haven't noticed Hoppers SUCK!!!

The only company doing anything about it so far is AGD!

If the projectiles were more accurate then we would not need as many shots per load. Smaller profile, more dependant on skill not volume of paint.

Also retooling would be a simple matter of changing the shape of the rollers and messing around with the gelatin formula so it would not kill you.

Hiding the fact that paintball is basically a game for hunting and shooting sentient targets is a blatant lie and just short of a waste of time.

Think about it boxing is a sport based on pummeling your opponent senseless. + All other martial art tournaments.
GAME ON! That is what it is, that is why we like it.

P.S. If you can't take the pain, get out of the game.

[DefiantGuy3901]

i think the balls add something to the game, it is like a handy cap that people learn to over come. so when you first look at it, it seems that it needs a new idea, but after to take into consideration that it is very much a part of the sport (paintBALL)
you see that it is not the the factor that gets most people anyway.

[PyRo]

Here is an experiment you can do
Materials:
Sharp Pencil
Step 1 Push the eraser into your leg as hard as you can. This will represent being hit by a normal paintball.
Step 2 Push the sharpend leg into your leg as hard as you can (but only if your too stupid to figure out what will happen if you do). This represents being his with a pointed paintball.

Aside from that, more expensive to produce, can only hold a few in a magazine.

[tbr13]

hahahahahhahah........

Again if you can't take the pain, get the hell out of the game!!!

Far more interested in accuracy and reliability than worrying about whether or not I recieve a larger bruise.

They will still be made of gelatin people.

And by saying playing around an inherent weakness and why upgrade because it hasn't been fixed by someone in so long that it is part of the game is a very good example of why so many sports stagnate. Why are we not still using singles and pumps then?

[PyRo]

You failed to adress my other two arguments

[HoppysMag]

Change is good, bu people fear it. Besides paintball rocks anyway. if you want more accuarcy get good with your gun.o and tbr13 get a better hopper. mine works fine. and come on if you want skill over volume you loose that cool sound that occres when two Spyders and a shocker are shootin like 20balls a second ( combined, not individualy) over your bunker from 15 yards away. And you know that the Twib is about to get a lesson in old school pumps.

You would have o retool all the machines that make the guns too

Ad i don know wat game your playin ut my games about over comming a stronger enemy while useing as little resorces as posible.

And o yea "If you cant take the pain, get out of the game" i got 2 balls in the temple from 10 feet away buy a loser who though paintball was about death, violence , and dumping down on the kid with the pump( back on like my 3rd game ever)

[PyRo]

Figure youve only got 20 or so shots in a magazine. It would be a whole new game.

[RJR99SS]

(*edit* uncalled for flak)

I dont have any problem with being hit by a paintball, the worst you'd get from one of those is a welt, or maybe a small cut in a worst case scenerio. But getting hit by a pointed shell would be a different story altogether, when it gets to the point where you have to worry about serious bodily injury its stops being fun.

(*edit* more uncalled for flak)

But anyway, if you started redesigning the paint, it would start getting pretty damn expensive. Paint is expensive enough as it is, and there really is a significant amount of fun in playing with this "low tech" stuff.

[banzaimf]

well... it's been tried... and it failed.

There was a company that put out a clip fed football shaped paint shooting paintball gun in the early 90's. Complete with optional rifled barrel. As I recall from reviews at the time

1. they didn't shoot straight with either rifled or smoothbore barrels.

2. you had to reload after 20 shots. Almost everyone else had at least 40 paintballs.

could it be done?
yes..
would it be commercially viable?
no
would it add any performance?
Past experience says no.


banzaimf

ps... look at other clip fed paintball guns. The smg's from tippman are pretty much never seen on the field. Why would you sumrise that to be.

[BradPalooza]

An oblong object is not stable in flight unless it is spinning on an axis parallel to it's flight path.

I believe AGD did some testing on this and the amount of spin that would be required to accelerate the liquid inside the gelatin shell is not realistic.

Not to mention that the way spin is imparted on a firearm's projectile wouldn't work with paintball. In this case, the barrel actually cuts into the surface of the bullet and forces it to spin as the bullet travels down the barrel.

In order to do this for paintball, you'd have to use something a lot less fragile than gelatin to encase the paint, which would in turn would make the paintball alot less likely to break on impact. If you want this, there's always Airsoft...

-Brad

[beam]

Advanced Tactical Systems makes clipfed markers.

https://www.adtacsys.com

It's pretty cool. Almost totally reliable loading...one ball per cycle of the bolt.