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  • unreal45
    Registered User
    • Jul 2004
    • 39

    #1

    Huge barrel leak

    1st time poster long time reader.
    OK here is my problem.
    I bought a 68 classic p/f level 7 mag off of ebay.
    It has a major leaking problem.
    If the velocity is down it seems like there is not enough pressure to fire the gun
    and nothing happens when i pull the trigger.
    If I turn the velocity up when i reach a certain point air blows strongly from the barrel.
    If I pull the trigger the leak stops.
    can anyone tell me what is wrong?
    or should i send it to AGD?
    also what is the turn around at AGD for a problem like this?
    thanks
    unreal45
    Last edited by unreal45; 07-06-2004, 06:41 AM.
  • athomas
    Of course it works-its AGD
    • Jan 2002
    • 8039

    #2
    Try changing the powertube o-ring.

    Since you can stop the leak by pulling and holding the trigger, you have eliminated the back half of the valve as being a problem.

    If it still leaks after you replace the powertube o-ring, check the sear for wear. Sometimes if the sear has a worn tip, it can cause the bolt to sit farther forward than normal. This doesn't allow the bolt to seal properly against the powertube o-ring. This can be compensated for using a shorter powertube spacer, but the sear should be replaced in the near future for better operation.

    And WELCOME to mag life! A mag is virtually indestructible, so you should be able to fix any problems yourself.
    Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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    • unreal45
      Registered User
      • Jul 2004
      • 39

      #3
      The guy who sold it to me told me he changed all the o-rings.
      but he also said the gun worked so maybe he didn't.

      air gos straight through the gun and emptys the tank as fast as possible
      if i pull the trigger it kind of fires but real weak

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      • toymyster
        Team OSIRIS
        • Dec 2000
        • 1277

        #4
        Like Athomas said, it's your power tube o-ring!! A good course of action anytime you buy a used mag is to go through it, replace all the o-rings, and clean and oil everything!! that way, you can be sure it was done!!!
        E-Mag's on a diet
        Stay tuned for Pics!!!
        Centerflag 201 series 68/45

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        • matt-o
          eater of babies
          • Aug 2003
          • 910

          #5
          if i were you i wouldnt bother buying new powertube orings, i would just go straight for level ten, you WILL end up getting it anyways
          WAS'ed angel speed

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          • Doobie
            AOsOfficialDrillSergeant
            • May 2001
            • 1237

            #6
            Originally posted by matt-o
            if i were you i wouldnt bother buying new powertube orings, i would just go straight for level ten, you WILL end up getting it anyways

            WORD!

            The gun is 1/8" of a game that is a FOOT long!
            (...but a 'mag helps)
            I know I was born and I know that I'll die...the in between is mine. -Eddie Vedder
            Sinister Sainthood

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            • Carlos De Benard
              Registered User
              • Jul 2004
              • 4

              #7
              Dear toymyster
              I also buy a mag from ebay. I have the same problem. I change the rings. I live in Panama, Central America. I have notice that the air escape from the back. There is no parts here. There is a way to repair that, like temp. Like clean the piston or something Please advice.

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              • athomas
                Of course it works-its AGD
                • Jan 2002
                • 8039

                #8
                Carlos De Benard:

                Give the back half of the mag a good cleaning and check the o-ring around the regulator piston assembly.

                Also, check the regulator seat. Chances are, this o-ring is leaking and causing the valve to overpressurize, which will result in the excess pressure venting out the back.

                If you have already replaced the o-rings, then you may have a weak regulator piston assembly. Replace it with a fresh new one that vents at a higher pressure.
                Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                • daviselk
                  Rush Is #1
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 246

                  #9
                  Powertube o-ring man, if you dont know much about mags it would be really worth it if you bought the video that comes with one.... it is cheezy but really teaches you. It talks about that kind of stuff.

                  my email and AIM name are the same as this, Hit me up sometime
                  Kaiser Bob "If Debbie can do Dallas, then GI Joe can do paintball."

                  sweet new site

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                  • Carlos De Benard
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 4

                    #10
                    Originally posted by athomas
                    Carlos De Benard:

                    Give the back half of the mag a good cleaning and check the o-ring around the regulator piston assembly.

                    Also, check the regulator seat. Chances are, this o-ring is leaking and causing the valve to overpressurize, which will result in the excess pressure venting out the back.

                    If you have already replaced the o-rings, then you may have a weak regulator piston assembly. Replace it with a fresh new one that vents at a higher pressure.
                    Thanks for the advice.

                    When you talk to me, about the back of the automag, do you mean the Regulator Body? If so, with what i clean it. I all read change everything.

                    I all ready open a account with the company and buy, by next week, the level 10 to change the entire front. The one that i have, has the rt body, and a very old DYE, very heavy, but accurate.

                    If you want photos let me know.

                    Carlos
                    Panama, Central America

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                    • athomas
                      Of course it works-its AGD
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 8039

                      #11
                      Is yours the retro or RT mag. It is a little different. If the cleaning around the regulator piston assembly doesn't help, then you will probably have to replace the regulator piston assembly.
                      Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                      • Carlos De Benard
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 4

                        #12
                        Originally posted by athomas
                        Is yours the retro or RT mag. It is a little different. If the cleaning around the regulator piston assembly doesn't help, then you will probably have to replace the regulator piston assembly.
                        Athomas: The mag is a Clasicc Valve. But the body, the grip is a rt from benchmark. I will take the picture when i get back from work.

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                        • Carlos De Benard
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 4

                          #13
                          Originally posted by athomas
                          Is yours the retro or RT mag. It is a little different. If the cleaning around the regulator piston assembly doesn't help, then you will probably have to replace the regulator piston assembly.
                          Athomas: If i clean the regulator piston assembly, whow i clean it. Carlos.

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                          • athomas
                            Of course it works-its AGD
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 8039

                            #14
                            When you take the velocity adjuster out of the back of the valve it exposes the regulator piston assembly. Take it out and clean it thoroughly. Clean the inside of the valve back as well. That's all you can do. If you have already replaced the regulator seat o-ring and the regulator piston o-ring and it still leaks after cleaning, then you need a new reg piston assembly from AGD.
                            Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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