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  • FragTek
    RPG DevilMAG Owner
    • Sep 2003
    • 2382

    #76
    Originally posted by Dayspring
    You know that burst modes and full auto modes aren't allowed in scenarios nor in regular play.
    That depends on where you play I'd assume. Every scenario I've been to has allowed bot burst and full auto.

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    • chirogator
      Registered User
      • Apr 2004
      • 42

      #77
      Whaaaaaaaa!

      Lots of energy has been devoted to the idea of changing software, codes, and the such...

      How 'bout ya just install a morlock - mini morlock - predator board for about $100 and you can have FA, Burst, Turbo (3 shots for every 2 pulls), semi, and anything in between!


      Just a thought!
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      • Beemer
        I could tell you but then.

        • Oct 2003
        • 3250

        #78
        Really

        UMMMM can you say Safety, Liability, Law suits, ASTM Safety standards.
        Who Puts up bullit proof wall till the smoke clears? Guess why.

        Now ask yourself why AGD doesnt do what everybody else does. He dont like to follow the heard. Its like CYA mode.

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        • VR4SL
          Registered User
          • Oct 2003
          • 90

          #79
          MISCUE-

          I actually have an idea for you, if you are going to continue to mess with the software.

          Why not replace the trgger-test mode with a chrono mode? Meaning, instead of having the code activate the "on/off" on the LCD, it turns On/Off the soliod, and HOLDS it on/off as to what the trigger is doing. In this mode, it would be possible to chrono the marker without the trigger rod in place, as it would function exactly like mechanical...just no bounce.

          Perhaps maybe revise 3.2 with ONLY this change, and make it 3.3 or something and release it...? at least then there is no F/A liability as you never touched any of that...
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          • Miscue
            Super Moderator

            • Oct 2000
            • 7105

            #80
            Originally posted by VR4SL
            MISCUE-

            I actually have an idea for you, if you are going to continue to mess with the software.

            Why not replace the trgger-test mode with a chrono mode? Meaning, instead of having the code activate the "on/off" on the LCD, it turns On/Off the soliod, and HOLDS it on/off as to what the trigger is doing. In this mode, it would be possible to chrono the marker without the trigger rod in place, as it would function exactly like mechanical...just no bounce.

            Perhaps maybe revise 3.2 with ONLY this change, and make it 3.3 or something and release it...? at least then there is no F/A liability as you never touched any of that...
            RT Chrono mode was one of the first things I thought about trying. It seemed like a good idea at first, but then I started to ask myself... why?

            As for technical reasons... if the solenoid is on for even a second or so - it heats up really bad and can start melting stuff. It's pretty much out of the question.

            Well, if there was something that could have been 3.3 - it would have been my original Q1.1 software. The timing was bad though, I had it done about the same time as 3.2 was getting out. There would have been a lot of pissed of people if they just flashed to 3.2 - and something new was out just days later. The other part is, AGD had just invested in 3.2 - and they basically would have thrown away all that money by adopting a replacement so soon. What's kind of unfortunate - is all that was needed was a simple "Can anyone write this?" and I could have had a prototype in a bit over a week - and maybe 3.2 would not even exist. You could have had a BPS meter, scrolling text, warp priming when ACE fails to see ball, and a shot counter that works correctly. Oh well.

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            • Beemer
              I could tell you but then.

              • Oct 2003
              • 3250

              #81
              so whats stopping that now?????

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              • VR4SL
                Registered User
                • Oct 2003
                • 90

                #82
                hmmm, the rapid heating of the solenoid crossed my mind, but I didnt think it would be that large of a problem. How about something that would allow you to hold the trigger, and ir fires, holds for .5 sec or so, and then releases and fires a normal shot in rapid succession?

                The need for a better way to chrono remains a fairly big deal, as it is a PITA.
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                • Lessthanusual
                  Registered User
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 29

                  #83
                  Me too!

                  Miscue,

                  I'm interested in helping you beta test that software.

                  Originally posted by eadtf

                  Want to test 4.20 on my marker?

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                  • Miscue
                    Super Moderator

                    • Oct 2000
                    • 7105

                    #84
                    Originally posted by VR4SL
                    hmmm, the rapid heating of the solenoid crossed my mind, but I didnt think it would be that large of a problem. How about something that would allow you to hold the trigger, and ir fires, holds for .5 sec or so, and then releases and fires a normal shot in rapid succession?

                    The need for a better way to chrono remains a fairly big deal, as it is a PITA.
                    Thought about that too - but that is full-auto. And really, you don't need an electronic chrono mode.

                    Don't need beta testers... sorry. Testing is done.

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                    • VR4SL
                      Registered User
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 90

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Miscue
                      Thought about that too - but that is full-auto. And really, you don't need an electronic chrono mode.

                      Don't need beta testers... sorry. Testing is done.
                      Not full-auto, 2-shot burst at best, and SLOW, no more than 2 BPS... no way any tournys would care, it is far too slow to even be useful. Could always make it lockable with a board jumper...

                      Why would you say there is no need for an electronic chrono mode? Some tournys request the trigger rod is removed for play.... kind of hard to chrono without that- isnt it? an electronic mode would eliminate the hassle of installing the rod JUST to chrono.
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                      • eadtf
                        It's a Jeep thing!

                        • Aug 2004
                        • 60

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Miscue
                        Thought about that too - but that is full-auto. And really, you don't need an electronic chrono mode.

                        Don't need beta testers... sorry. Testing is done.
                        So if the testing is done I can only assume that the software is good to go and you fixxed the 4.1 glitches. So what is it going to take for me to get my marker flashed? Must all E / X - Mag owners appeal to AGD? If so, let me know and I will begin the campaign.

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                        • my2crazyeyes
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 30

                          #87
                          quick question

                          Miscue, Sorry if you awnsered this question already but, how would I go about flashing new software onto the emag? after reading this, and realizing that my Computer Architecture class was helpful, I have been really excited about trying to write some new software for the emag.

                          THanks for the help,

                          -Chris

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                          • Miscue
                            Super Moderator

                            • Oct 2000
                            • 7105

                            #88
                            Originally posted by my2crazyeyes
                            Miscue, Sorry if you awnsered this question already but, how would I go about flashing new software onto the emag? after reading this, and realizing that my Computer Architecture class was helpful, I have been really excited about trying to write some new software for the emag.

                            THanks for the help,

                            -Chris
                            Check your PM.

                            Computer Architecture eh? That's the class I was taking when I broke my leg. Rolled up in a wheel chair, and took my final doped up on pain killers.

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                            • Miscue
                              Super Moderator

                              • Oct 2000
                              • 7105

                              #89
                              Originally posted by VR4SL
                              Not full-auto, 2-shot burst at best, and SLOW, no more than 2 BPS... no way any tournys would care, it is far too slow to even be useful. Could always make it lockable with a board jumper...

                              Why would you say there is no need for an electronic chrono mode? Some tournys request the trigger rod is removed for play.... kind of hard to chrono without that- isnt it? an electronic mode would eliminate the hassle of installing the rod JUST to chrono.
                              No way. There are potential safety hazards with that, if you think about it. It's not just about what the league's "care about."

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                              • VR4SL
                                Registered User
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 90

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Miscue
                                No way. There are potential safety hazards with that, if you think about it. It's not just about what the league's "care about."

                                You and I are certainly on different pages with this topic. How can there POSSIBLY be a safety issue with this??? it cant do anything more than you can do by yourself- in fact much less. its not like then gun will shoot itself, you would have to Pull and hold the trigger for over 1 sec just for it to complete to two chrono shots. It is not like rapid firing this mode will accomplish anything out of the ordinary, or the gun will shoot itself, etc. I am very curious to see why you think there is a safety issue with this, I just cant figure out where you are coming from.
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