Question to all out there. I know that ANS makes a Extreme Flow Valve for the 68Automag and like, also I herd of people making their own Extreme Flow Valve with a Dremel tool. My question to you. . . can you make one for a Classic RT (Or RT Pro)????
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Last edited by Old_School_RT; 11-06-2004, 07:15 PM.-Automag RT SN - RT02713
-Level 10
-Modified On/Off Assembly With Short Pin
-View Loader Evolution II Hopper With Z-board
-14" Warpig Straight Bore Rifled Barrel
-Soon to be added Hyper Frame with a custom Trigger from Doc.
-Kapp Drop Forward With Cradle Mount
-Flatline SN - FL03439
-114 ci 3000 psi Tank
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The classic RT does not have the flow problem. The retro valve itself is the answer to the flow problem.Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts. -
I was just wondering if improving the flow of the valve would help in making the valve cycle faster-Automag RT SN - RT02713
-Level 10
-Modified On/Off Assembly With Short Pin
-View Loader Evolution II Hopper With Z-board
-14" Warpig Straight Bore Rifled Barrel
-Soon to be added Hyper Frame with a custom Trigger from Doc.
-Kapp Drop Forward With Cradle Mount
-Flatline SN - FL03439
-114 ci 3000 psi Tank
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Now you see. . . that evil will always triumph. . . .because good is dumb.
SpaceballsComment
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It probably would, but it's not worth the effort. That valve should already cycle quicker than you can pull the trigger. If you are having any hang-ups with your cycling, I would check your air flow and make sure something isn't starving the valve. Tampering with it could cause problems and not really bring about any noticable results.Comment
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The ANS valve was designed as an upgrade back when the valve halves didn't line up correctly. That would produce a starvation to the valve. The ANS made either more holes (The 8 hold mod) or 2 large slits to compensate for that. Now that the valve/reg bodies are drilled as one piece, this problem has gone away and the ANS parts are no longer needed.
Originally posted by Old_School_RTComment
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I don't care about the actual valve, I am talking about the On/off assembely. I want to know if some one has made their Classic RT on/off assembely a high flow like one which one could purchase for their 68Automag.-Automag RT SN - RT02713
-Level 10
-Modified On/Off Assembly With Short Pin
-View Loader Evolution II Hopper With Z-board
-14" Warpig Straight Bore Rifled Barrel
-Soon to be added Hyper Frame with a custom Trigger from Doc.
-Kapp Drop Forward With Cradle Mount
-Flatline SN - FL03439
-114 ci 3000 psi Tank
__________________________________________________ ________
Now you see. . . that evil will always triumph. . . .because good is dumb.
SpaceballsComment
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Those were garbage... Didn't do squat.Comment
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they all use the same oring and on/off pin, they only opened up the sides so your restriction is still the oring in the on/off. Most of the major modifications were made by airsmiths that shortened the on/off pin to just the right size so it closes when you shoot but doesn't close and have extra length on the pin to slow down your recharge. If your pin is too long it takes an extra milli-second for it to clear the oring to recharge the automags dump chamber.Comment
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So. . . the best thing for me to do is to just make the holes in the side of the valve a little larger and match my pin to my trigger requirements???-Automag RT SN - RT02713
-Level 10
-Modified On/Off Assembly With Short Pin
-View Loader Evolution II Hopper With Z-board
-14" Warpig Straight Bore Rifled Barrel
-Soon to be added Hyper Frame with a custom Trigger from Doc.
-Kapp Drop Forward With Cradle Mount
-Flatline SN - FL03439
-114 ci 3000 psi Tank
__________________________________________________ ________
Now you see. . . that evil will always triumph. . . .because good is dumb.
SpaceballsComment
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the best thing for you to do is to leave it alone....Comment
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The 4 stock holes on the side allow more flow than the single oring hole that shuts off the on/off. If you read all the articles back when all those valve mods were being reviewed no one would give a definate yes or no if they helped. In fact I opened up the sides on my original ractor valve and I didn't notice any improvement on shoot down, but I couldn't cycle it fast enough without short stroking. Opening the holes on the side won't hurt anything as long as theres enough left to hold the top up, but the main problem with recharging the dump chamber is the on/off top oring and flow through the built in reg.
Shortening the pin will help, but if you shorten it too much the pin won't close the valve and you will have other problems. If the on/off you have screws apart you can try using shims from a level 10 kit or ULT kit between the bodies which acts like shorting the pin by making the valve longer. If you do shorten the pin you can tell if its too short by holding back the trigger and hear a leaking sound your on/off isn't shutting off.Comment
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I thank all of you for your help. Before I became a member of this forum I only knew that a Automag worked, and it worked unlike any other marker. One thing I learnd in college, if you know how and why something works then, and only then, can you modify something for the better. Again I thank you for your insight-Automag RT SN - RT02713
-Level 10
-Modified On/Off Assembly With Short Pin
-View Loader Evolution II Hopper With Z-board
-14" Warpig Straight Bore Rifled Barrel
-Soon to be added Hyper Frame with a custom Trigger from Doc.
-Kapp Drop Forward With Cradle Mount
-Flatline SN - FL03439
-114 ci 3000 psi Tank
__________________________________________________ ________
Now you see. . . that evil will always triumph. . . .because good is dumb.
SpaceballsComment
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I just have to repeat that there is no need to improve flow. 26+ bps without shootdown isn't enough?Comment
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Or in this case... once you know how it works.... you will understand that there is nothing you can do to improve it without sacrificing something.Originally posted by Old_School_RTComment
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