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  • Andrew Cunje
    Mag Lover
    • Nov 2004
    • 223

    #1

    Two Problems with xvalve

    Hello, i have owned a mag with an xvalve, ule main, ult, intelli, 68 rail, and a centerflag "high pressure" tank.

    recently i have have two problems.

    the first is every now and then maintly when my tank is around 1300-1600 psi, if i gas up my gun and pull the trigger the gun goes full auto. Sometimes im lucky and can just turn the back just a hair and turn it back and it stops, but recently it just keeps on going full auto in this presure range...what could be the problem? i was thinking that maybe my tank was not putting out the correct output pressure...but dont know if this could do it, i know that my tanks gauge has recently been off by 300psi in the low range when filling my tank but at 4500 is correct.

    second i have had to take out my ult trigger kit which i love. After abotu 15 shots, its just up and stops working, the only way to make it work is to turn it off and re-gas it up, same problem occurs....when i put in teh stock on off trigger it works 100% but has its good ole hard has he// trigger pull....

    any input into my problems? have any of u had the same and resolved it?

    Thanks any help would be amazing!

    ~Andrew
    I LOVE MAGS :hail: ...and hate low pressure output tanks....and :shooting: spyders

  • Andrew Cunje
    Mag Lover
    • Nov 2004
    • 223

    #2
    bump...nobody ever likes my topics
    I LOVE MAGS :hail: ...and hate low pressure output tanks....and :shooting: spyders

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    • frop
      Easily Irritated
      • Feb 2004
      • 751

      #3
      have you tried anything to eliminate basic probs?(fs screw,etc)
      Origninally posted by warbeak2099
      Definately extra lube. I keep two bottles at all times. Can't leave home w/o your lubricant.



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      • athomas
        Of course it works-its AGD
        • Jan 2002
        • 8039

        #4
        Check the condition of your sear. It may be worn at the tip.
        Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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        • mag/cocker lover
          Element *608*
          • Jul 2003
          • 1295

          #5
          im sure you can retune the ult to work, just make sure you oil it often so that it doesnt get sticky.

          as for the full auto, id check the frame and valve screws to make sure that theyre not loose or overly tight. personally, ive never had a problem with this with any of the 4 mags ive owned, but i do know that alot of people do for some reason.
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          • Ninhydrin
            Automag?
            • Dec 2001
            • 5786

            #6
            sounds like the reg on your tank is spiking. try another tank

            how many shims in the ult and what rail do you havE?
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            • Andrew Cunje
              Mag Lover
              • Nov 2004
              • 223

              #7
              i have 1 shim in a 1 line spacer in my powertube, that works fine never chop paint or anything, i took my tank in today and they said it was putting out about 650 psi, is this to low? (tank fill was at about 2000psi) i also have a 68 classic rail, so whatever you call taht rail is the one that it have.

              as for teh ult i went with teh recomended 4 shims...to much? too little?
              I LOVE MAGS :hail: ...and hate low pressure output tanks....and :shooting: spyders

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              • Andrew Cunje
                Mag Lover
                • Nov 2004
                • 223

                #8
                sometimes when the fs screw is overly tight it will go full auto but i only make sure it is hand tight now, as for teh sear its only been used like 8 times in field play and looks to be in good condition...ill try lubin up the ult today adn trying to get it to work..........if the front grip screw was overly tight could that cause problems? cause i usually make it snug with the alan wrench
                I LOVE MAGS :hail: ...and hate low pressure output tanks....and :shooting: spyders

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                • frop
                  Easily Irritated
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 751

                  #9
                  Your tanks output is likely the problem. Mags CAN run that low in certain configurations/cases, but they like higher pressures. Try a different tank first.

                  EDIT: spelling & sig
                  Origninally posted by warbeak2099
                  Definately extra lube. I keep two bottles at all times. Can't leave home w/o your lubricant.



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                  • athomas
                    Of course it works-its AGD
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 8039

                    #10
                    Level 10 setups like a higher input pressure. The low pressure would also have an effect on the ULT. Definately use a higher output tank. I'll bet it fixes most of the problems you are experiencing.
                    Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                    • CaliMagFan

                      #11
                      when you find the marker going FA... just hold the trigger down and let it run... it should stop in less than 10 seconds... if it doesnt, then you do have a problem.... the issue with the marker stopping its ability to shoot is most likely your FS screw... it should be more than hand tight... use an allen wrench to snug it a bit more than you can with the fingers....

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                      • Andrew Cunje
                        Mag Lover
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 223

                        #12
                        aight, i had my tank checked at pevs, and it was putting out 650psi at 2000, so i called up centerflag adn they told me to chip it off to them and they are goin to change the spring and set the tank to a higher output...what would you all recomend, he said that most mag guys will get it set to about 1000....is this to high or near a danger zone?

                        basically what should i have them set my tank output to?

                        hopefully this fixes my problems!!!
                        I LOVE MAGS :hail: ...and hate low pressure output tanks....and :shooting: spyders

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                        • frop
                          Easily Irritated
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 751

                          #13
                          900 should be good & safe for ya.
                          Origninally posted by warbeak2099
                          Definately extra lube. I keep two bottles at all times. Can't leave home w/o your lubricant.



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                          • Andrew Cunje
                            Mag Lover
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 223

                            #14
                            also another general question i have is...with the tank runnign at optimal output and my gun working again, how many bps should i expect...i can walk electros like whoa, but i want ever able to feel more than 8ish with my tank and gun running in its ****ty condidtion
                            I LOVE MAGS :hail: ...and hate low pressure output tanks....and :shooting: spyders

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                            • Andrew Cunje
                              Mag Lover
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 223

                              #15
                              good news, i am shipping off my tank to be worked on today, they are goin to tune it for 900-1000 output....

                              Last night i used my buddies tank on my mag just to try it since he was thinking of gettin a Tac-One but wanted to try my gun out first, so i retuned it a bit, still have some leaking...(have to find out from where ) but his tank is putting out a much higher output than mine was....i set up the ult and was able to rip like 16 17 bps out of it(just judging by the joise and rate of fire of his 15 bps tipmann and my brothers 13 bps board in his spyder....my gun is now the ownage , it gave it enough bounce back to foock everyones world up

                              so now its 10:27 am and im goin to try and find my leaking o ring.

                              after drinking wildly last night cause my mom went out of town
                              I LOVE MAGS :hail: ...and hate low pressure output tanks....and :shooting: spyders

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