sweetspotting

[clb33fyxj]

hey all,
ive got a question regarding sweetspotting and setting up my trgger. i run an xvalve w/lvlx bolt, ult trigger and chimera frame. my main question is why can i get my gun to sweetspot with no paint (just cycle) but not with paint. i mean i dont really care to go auto but hey its cool. mainly im wondering if my trig is not adjusted properly.
thx
chris

[jamescell]

try adding another shim to the ult.

[clb33fyxj]

ill give it a try...thx

[purple]

if you dont have an adjustable output pressure tank, dont plan on sweetspotting a ULT
if you have one, crank it up to around 1100 psi, the ULT is so nuts at that pressure, walkable, extremely easy to sweetspot, everything.

also, a buddy and me made a franken mag using the uppers from an emag (body, valve) and the lowers from a 68 classic automag for his girlfriend to play with. it had the sear/trigger from an automag and an emag valve. all of it was running off of a crossfire preset hi pressure. man, that thing sweetspotted so easy, it was friggen amazing! so here me going insane e mode on the emag, my buddy going insane sweetspot on his logic vert/ult/flatlined monster, and his girlfriend sweetspotting on her frankenmag, it was some serious intimidation. no wonder our 4 person mag team owned the whole field of cockers/timmies

muhahaha

Purple

[alooney11]

Yeah get the adjustable, i recommend the apoc2k..also try that ULT it does rock.

[cockerkiller68]

The ULT was actually designed to lighten trigger and TAKE AWAY BOUNCE from Retro/x valves. If you use 850 psi reg, you won't be able to bounce it well. If you can't get an adjustable tank, use the stock on/off assembly to get bounce.

My $.02

[Plazmic]

Does a higher pressure air input make the ULT feel heavier?

[athomas]

No. The trigger pull force is a direct result of the air pressure in the front chamber of the valve acting on the small part of the on-off pin. Input pressure does affect the trigger return force though by acting on the larger top of the on-off pin (higher pressure = more trigger kick). In a retro valve, the higher input force acting on the larger part of the on-off pin when compared to the lower chamber pressure acting on the smaller part of the on-off pin means the trigger return force will be greater than the trigger pull force.

[Plazmic]

Ah! I get it, now. Thanks!

[alooney11]

The ULT removes bounce at lower pressures but when jacked up, it is much nicer than the stock, and i have tried both.