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  • Physco
    Registered User
    • Feb 2005
    • 28

    #1

    Rt/Shim Problems

    im Very New to Mags.so i have NO idea what most are talking about.my gun came Fully assembled so i dont know what the peices are.
    Ok i just bought a Rt ule custom from airgun's store.

    set up is Ule body
    ult
    X valve with lvl 10
    single trigger
    47cu 3000psi

    Ok i got the gun out of the box and i gassed it up, the stock Asa threads were.. off and my gun bleed out teh Asa so i Removed and added my own on/off/drop /macro set up.

    gassed up and i pulled the trigger and it went Fulllly auto <pull once and i lost control and it just fired tell i turned my drop Off.

    So i figured it was Shims so i went to remove shims from the place in pictures. it had 1 inside so i decided to add 1 , No help i kept adding and it just went into fully auto, <hold trigger and its auto> im Not sure its supposed to do that but if it is yay lol

    so my question is, Where do Shim's go., is it a Factory Error and needs to send back? its really sweet and i like it as far as feel, but i've been Tinkering with the Shim's for over 3 hrs.

    im Low on air and cant get my tanks filled until tommorw <If weather is nice> i have about 1000 Psi left and it goes fast.

    so any help is much appreciated! i can be on for a few hrs so im here waitng for any help Thx
  • Rift
    mmmm X-Dallara
    • May 2004
    • 539

    #2
    The shimms that you have removed are the lvl 10 shims. Those control the sealing point of the bolt. The shimms that you want to adjust are the ULE trigger shimms. Those are located int he on/off. The on/off is locateed under the valve. Its the brass part that is in the power tube half of the valve. Before you try to tweak the trigger shims i would recomend you set the correct carrier in your lvl 10. What you want to do is look at that cd that came with your lvl 10 kit and use the biggest carrier that dose not leak. Then put in the medium or small spring, depending on how soft you want it You also wont really need the lvl 10 shims as most of the time there unececarry. Once you have that done you can mess around with the ULE trigger shimms. Its pretty simple you want to get it to the point that it dosent short stroke, but at the same time you dont want it to go full auto. To little shimms will cause you to short stroke more, and to many will cause full auto. Your gonna have to play around with that one and find an inbetween that works for you. Last drop some oil in the asa to lube up the gun really nice. Hope that helps!

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    • Physco
      Registered User
      • Feb 2005
      • 28

      #3
      Sweet ok thx! im assuming u mean this <see pic> how do you get the brass off? just pull or open from another end? Thx!

      sorry pics are so blurry, i gotta shakey hand and a VERY small digital camera lol like 1 inch by inch <Spy kind> :)
      Last edited by Physco; 02-05-2005, 12:28 AM. Reason: pic

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      • undescriptive
        Battered and Bruised
        • Apr 2004
        • 279

        #4
        Prise out the brass on/off under the valve - it can be a little stiff sometimes
        it will pop off eventually.

        when taking the ULT appart, you have to pull the halves slightly appart before they will unscrew properlythen you can get to the shims...

        remember this though.... OIL (Autolube, KCtrouble free, Love Juice) is your Mags bestest friend!! reall oil the hell out of the On/Off and it should help a little :) (or a lot!!)

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        • Physco
          Registered User
          • Feb 2005
          • 28

          #5
          ^^ thx for the help :) i hope to be able to master Automga's like i have to my tippmanns, <which i can put together blindfolded!> i got it off and took one shim, but im outta air so i cant test for a while =/ thats the biggest problem. we hav ONE field on this island, and if its raining they dont show =/

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          • Pyroboy597
            We need more room for titl
            • May 2004
            • 518

            #6
            Im having the same problem, except ive been messing with the shims for 3 hours and it fire twice fine, then about every third shot just poops a ball out the barrel. When you take apart the ULT just make sure u set it up right on the table, because the little O-Rings can get lost and they are really hard to find if they fall on the ground. Ive tried 1 shim, 2 , 3, 4, and i think 5 and 2 , 3, and 4 in my lvl 10 and it still gets stuck.
            IM SORRY AO FOR DISOBEYING YOUR SIG RULES!!!! FORGIVE ME!!!

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            • Physco
              Registered User
              • Feb 2005
              • 28

              #7
              thats the thing, the Above pictires are for the lvl 10 , the ULE is in the little brass peice.

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              • Physco
                Registered User
                • Feb 2005
                • 28

                #8
                Aight thx for the help! i had 5 to many shims making me not shooting ... i have 4 in now and its working very nice. bolt sticks so ima oil it a bit, Thx again!

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