2 emag problems

[Restola]

Brand new to me emag.
Level 10
3.2 software

Problem #1

In E mode. During any rapid firing every other shot *sounds* like a short stroke (that "pfft" sound). Also, if I hold the trigger right, it goes into full auto (or some kind of run-away), with every other shot going "pfffft"

But sometimes, it will shoot long strings (15-20 balls) without any problems at all at very high speed.

Problem #2

The gun wont fire in mech mode. The rod doesn't come out far enough to touch the trigger, and the trigger *just barely* touches the rod when pulled all the way back (flush with the frame)

I think problem #1 may be caused by a tight level 10 carrier? But I am completely baffled by #2. I haven't owned an emag in a long time, and I never had issues with my last one.

[gothsqwd]

Problem #2

The gun wont fire in mech mode. The rod doesn't come out far enough to touch the trigger, and the trigger *just barely* touches the rod when pulled all the way back (flush with the frame)

I think problem #1 may be caused by a tight level 10 carrier? But I am completely baffled by #2. I haven't owned an emag in a long time, and I never had issues with my last one.

Sounds like you need to adjust the sear trigger pin. lengthen it until it is about 1/16 of an inch behind the trigger when fully pulled back in "E" mode. This should be good enough that it won't interfere with e mode or hybrid mode, but will still be good for full manual.

[Lee]

whats your shot buffer setting? i run mine at 40 with no problems.

the second issue may be input pressure from your tank. not sure, but it's a shot.

[Restola]

whats your shot buffer setting? i run mine at 40 with no problems.

the second issue may be input pressure from your tank. not sure, but it's a shot.

I tried a few different buffer settings, no luck

Tank is a preset PMI, I think at 850psi.

[kurama]

#2- Your safety is turned on. On the back of the frame there is a safety... Hit it hard. I use the back end of a wrench -- Its hard. Make it so that the side of the safety that sticks out faces your left when holding the marker. Turn the safety off then gas it up.

[Restola]

#2- Your safety is turned on. On the back of the frame there is a safety... Hit it hard. I use the back end of a wrench -- Its hard. Make it so that the side of the safety that sticks out faces your left when holding the marker. Turn the safety off then gas it up.

The safety is definately in the "OFF" position. I also took the gun apart and verified that the piece of metal isn't interfering with anything, and it definately looked clear.

[VFX_Fenix]

Don't mess with your Trigger Rod length if you haven't messed with it at all.

Pull your On/Off out of your valve and make sure the O-Ring around the pin is seated propperly. What you're describing is an On/Off pin that's too short, not firing in mech mode and shooting "bursts" in e mode.

EDIT: I assume you're using an E-Mag Valve, however if you've just put your E-Mag together and you're using something OTHER than an E-Mag Valve (like an X Valve or other valve that will accept a ULT kit) with an E-Mag On/Off make sure you have an O-Ring seated inside the On/Off recess before installing the On/Off so that the O-Ring around the On/Off pin will seat propperly.

[Restola]

Don't mess with your Trigger Rod length if you haven't messed with it at all.

Pull your On/Off out of your valve and make sure the O-Ring around the pin is seated propperly. What you're describing is an On/Off pin that's too short, not firing in mech mode and shooting "bursts" in e mode.

EDIT: I assume you're using an E-Mag Valve, however if you've just put your E-Mag together and you're using something OTHER than an E-Mag Valve (like an X Valve or other valve that will accept a ULT kit) with an E-Mag On/Off make sure you have an O-Ring seated inside the On/Off recess before installing the On/Off so that the O-Ring around the On/Off pin will seat propperly.

I haven't adjusted the trigger rod.

The oring around the pin was seated correctly. I'm assuming if you are right I need to order a new pin. Any way to confirm that this is the problem without waiting x days/weeks to get a new pin?

[VFX_Fenix]

Digital Calipers to check that the pin is .712"

So you are using an E-Mag valve, not an E-Max or X Valve?

[Restola]

Digital Calipers to check that the pin is .712"

So you are using an E-Mag valve, not an E-Max or X Valve?

Yep its an emag valve

Unfortunately no digital calipers

[VFX_Fenix]

In that case just use a ruler, you should be able to tell the difference between .75" (19mm) and .712" (18mm).

If the pin is .712" long then you should have the brass top to the On/Off, if your On/Off top is Aluminum the pin will be slightly longer. I'm convinced by the behaviour of the marker that its an on/off issue.

Okay... You're On/Off, does it look like this (maybe with a white O-Ring on top instead of black):


Another thought, turn the velocity nut all the way out, then turn it in until it enguages the spring pack. Turn your air on and turn the nut up slowly, pulling the trigger, until the Mag starts cycling completely then give it an extra bit of a turn, or you can just crank your velocity nut all the way in and see if the marker will cycle propperly.

Other possibilities, the valve needs to be rebuilt/taken appart and cleaned since there might be some gunk in it somewhere. A bit of oil might help, running it through the ASA and lubing the On/Off.

If the marker is cycling fine some of the time, that means that the Bolt Carriers are fine, if it were the carriers the marker would be chuffing alot instead of being able to shoot a string of paint then going F/A. The trigger rod being too short can be indicative of a couple of things, one; the previous owner shortend the pin to disable mechanical mode for some reason (intentional) or two; the On/Off isn't resetting propperly. I'm betting the On/Off isn't resetting, though an easy way to verify is to put the marker on E-Mode and shoot it while looking at where the trigger rod is and if the marker shot/chuffed/ran away. If it shot then the rod has been altered from spec and will need to be set back to the propper length (calipers definately needed) if you want to mess around with that. Otherwise this will be an E-Only mag.

there're other possibilities, but I'll think about them beofre posting.