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  • FlawleZ
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    • May 2004
    • 824

    #1

    Troubles Rapid Firing my RT

    OK. I have an RT Classic that's in almost perfect shape. I have two tanks, one Nitro Duck 45/45 adjustable screw in, and a 45/45 Dynaflow. I can't get my gun to rapid fire with either tank. The Nitro Duck goes up to about 810ish and the Dynaflow maxes out at 900 psi. I can feel the pin getting harder to depress with the more pressure but it just won't bounce. I've oiled the gun, adjusted the pin to roughly 1mm spacing and still no rapidfire. Can anyone else shoot me some ideas?

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  • Gunga
    Former AGD Factory Tech
    • May 2001
    • 1497

    #2
    How about the gun's working the way it's supposed to? Rapidfire aka full auto/bounce/whatever term you wanna use is a malfunction, not a feature. It'll eat up your sear and bolt.

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    • stop whining buy a mag
      I know what I'm doing!
      • Sep 2004
      • 414

      #3
      Do you have the Level 10 installed? That greatly reduces bounce because of the extra pressure required.

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      • FlawleZ
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        • May 2004
        • 824

        #4
        Originally posted by stop whining buy a mag
        Do you have the Level 10 installed? That greatly reduces bounce because of the extra pressure required.
        Yes, I have the Level 10 installed. I forgot that she eats up more air with the Level 10.

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        • FlawleZ
          Xmodded Karta Emag=sold ;(
          • May 2004
          • 824

          #5
          Originally posted by Gunga
          How about the gun's working the way it's supposed to? Rapidfire aka full auto/bounce/whatever term you wanna use is a malfunction, not a feature. It'll eat up your sear and bolt.
          Sorry, it's not a "malfunction." Tom Kaye knew good and well that the RT Valve would do what it would do at high pressure inputs. That's why it's rated at 3000 psi.

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          • jewie27
            Senior Member
            • May 2001
            • 1275

            #6
            Originally posted by FlawleZ
            Sorry, it's not a "malfunction." Tom Kaye knew good and well that the RT Valve would do what it would do at high pressure inputs. That's why it's rated at 3000 psi.

            Exactly. Ask Z-Man.

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            • Recon by Fire
              Enimo Et Fide
              • Mar 2003
              • 1706

              #7
              If I crank up my max-flow on my Tac-One it will pretty much only fire rapid fire. It takes a lot of control to only squeeze off one or two shots at a time like that. It is like a little SMG

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              • BigEvil
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                • Feb 2005
                • 9333

                #8
                Its an on/off pin issue. I had lots of trouble getting my classic RT to bounce. Shorten the lenth of the pin. (by thousanths!!) AGD sells different size pins. If you are scared to try to change the lenght yourself, by a few different ones and see which works best. I took a griding bit to mine, removed a little at a time, and kept trying it until i got it where I liked it.

                Oh, and dont let anyone tell you not to mess with the pin.

                Just be careful not to make it TOO short or it will run away.

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                • FlawleZ
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                  • May 2004
                  • 824

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BigEvil
                  Its an on/off pin issue. I had lots of trouble getting my classic RT to bounce. Shorten the lenth of the pin. (by thousanths!!) AGD sells different size pins. If you are scared to try to change the lenght yourself, by a few different ones and see which works best. I took a griding bit to mine, removed a little at a time, and kept trying it until i got it where I liked it.

                  Oh, and dont let anyone tell you not to mess with the pin.

                  Just be careful not to make it TOO short or it will run away.
                  Ah. Thank you very much! I'll take another look at her today and see what I can find.

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                  • Beemer
                    I could tell you but then.

                    • Oct 2003
                    • 3250

                    #10
                    Trur True

                    Originally posted by Gunga
                    How about the gun's working the way it's supposed to? Rapidfire aka full auto/bounce/whatever term you wanna use is a malfunction, not a feature. It'll eat up your sear and bolt.
                    Like he said its working fine.

                    AGD does not condone, promote, approve, recommend, warranty, etc,etc..........this condition
                    Factory specs is 7 to 800psi input.

                    Oh ya........dont mess with the pin

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                    • Gunga
                      Former AGD Factory Tech
                      • May 2001
                      • 1497

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FlawleZ
                      Sorry, it's not a "malfunction."
                      Well what do I know? I only used to run the AGD tech dept.

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                      • BigEvil
                        www.BigEvilOnline.com

                        • Feb 2005
                        • 9333

                        #12
                        Originally posted by FlawleZ
                        Sorry, it's not a "malfunction." Tom Kaye knew good and well that the RT Valve would do what it would do at high pressure inputs. That's why it's rated at 3000 psi.
                        I always thought more of it as a 'Side-effect".


                        As far as the pin goes, when I called AGD, the tech (Whomever it was at the time) was the one who actually instructed me how to do this. Yeah, you might shorten it out of 'spec', but you will have an e-gun killing beast in your hands. Oh, and ithose pins cost about $15 a peice. Not cheap, but not prohibitively expensive to mess with.

                        If you still have any problems PM me or hit me up on AIM.

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                        • stop whining buy a mag
                          I know what I'm doing!
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 414

                          #13
                          If you know what your doing, go out and buy and extra pin. The worst you could do is ruin it but get valuable learning experience on how another piece of the Mag works.

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                          • Boydster
                            Registered User
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 715

                            #14
                            How about you put a shim in there? I know it's not a ULT, but adding a shim is pretty much the same as grinding the pin. They both shorten it.

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                            • jewie27
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2001
                              • 1275

                              #15
                              Buy a shorter ON/Off pin from AGD. I did.

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