New Owner Here, Please Help.

[SOL General]

Hello, I am a new owner of a PTP MicroMag. Im new to mags, but not new to the sport. This is my first mag, and I had a couple of questions that I was hoping some of you guys could answer for me.

-What is the lowest and Ideal operating pressure of the MicroMag, and Any Mag? I want to get the Palmer Pursuit Fatty Stabilizer, the Highest operating pressure of it is 400PSI, I was wondering if that was sufficient.

-Is the Level 10 really worth the money, and can it work on CO2?

-I want to keep my mag on a CO2 basis, what would the reccommended upgrades be from there?

-What is the best barrel? I was looking at a J&J Ceramic, or a Lapco Bigshot, my gun will be mostly used for woodsball.

I know some, if not most are speedballers. I am a woodsballer and I would like help in turning my gun into an effective marker in woodsball.



Please Help.

Thank You,
SOL General

[Dayspring]

Do not add another regulator to the gun. You already have one built in. the minimum operating pressure for the mag is 650 or so PSI. You want to keep 800psi going in to keep everything square.

Yes it's worth the money and yes it can work with CO2.

Expansion chamber & anti-siphon tube for the tank.

There is no best barrel. One that fits the paint you use is best. And keep it under 16" in length.

Hello, I am a new owner of a PTP MicroMag. Im new to mags, but not new to the sport. This is my first mag, and I had a couple of questions that I was hoping some of you guys could answer for me.

-What is the lowest and Ideal operating pressure of the MicroMag, and Any Mag? I want to get the Palmer Pursuit Fatty Stabilizer, the Highest operating pressure of it is 400PSI, I was wondering if that was sufficient.

-Is the Level 10 really worth the money, and can it work on CO2?

-I want to keep my mag on a CO2 basis, what would the reccommended upgrades be from there?

-What is the best barrel? I was looking at a J&J Ceramic, or a Lapco Bigshot, my gun will be mostly used for woodsball.

I know some, if not most are speedballers. I am a woodsballer and I would like help in turning my gun into an effective marker in woodsball.

Please Help.

Thank You,
SOL General

[monkeyking]

If you're using CO2 (as I do), then definitely use an expansion chamber. A big one. I don't have any problems at all, certainly not the "freezing up" issues that some others have claimed. I have an angled drop forward to both help balance and keep the top of the tank facing up, but my expansion chamber's so big, I don't know if it will matter. I don't even get steam out of the thing.

You could also go for a Q-Loader to keep the balls comin' in fast enough for the bolt to throw them instead of eat them.

Here! I did a little market search for you. This thing's physically large and has six chambers. Seems good to me.

For woodsball, you probably want to take this guy's advice: get a stock and a wide window red dot sight, and get the center of gravity forward of where it probably is.

What's the body you've got there? It's pretty neat. Looks a bit like a Z?

[bleachit]

palmer's Stabilizers work wonders on mags with CO2. dont get the fatty, get the "normal" male stabilizer if you are looking into a palmers.

[SOL General]

Thank you BleachIt, Monkey King, and Day Spring. I really appreciate your fast replies.

Qloader is something that I was planning on getting, because I love the low profile and the ability to feed amasingly fast.

As far as an expansion chamber and a Palmer, I was thinking about getting a Palmer Stab. I like the looks (sleekness) and I like the size of it. Expansion chambers just seem too bulky, but thank you for the link Monkey King, I will look into purchasing that to test out.

MonkeyKing, the body is the PTP MicroMag Body, my gun is a Micromag/Mini Mag Hybrid with a RVA. I have been to the Spec. Ops. site many times and I enjoy reading the articles they have there. I am planning on getting a TacOne and a LongBow Kit, but I wanted to learn mags first before I make the big purchase like that.

Thanks everyone, Hopefully I can get more people to lead me to the right barrel, Small, Accurate, and Black (cocker threaded)

-SOL General

[MnSparky]

One thing that I notice, and this is only if you get the level 10,is that you have to be careful what barrel you get, I have an existing J&J barrel on a mag tht I added level 10 to, and the new bolt won't fit in the barrel. Small bore barrels might have a problem with level 10.

[Boydster]

The lvl X bolt will work with CO2. It's a must have.

Don't get a reg, double regulated set-ups have problems. The only reason why you would want the palmer is because it has a liguid trap. However, I'd highly suggest you get an expansion chamber over it.

Dead On Products makes a really nice one which happens to be one of the cheapest. In fact, I'd say it's the best expansion chamber being made today. Look up DOP X-Core and purchase that one.

Here's my pic that shows how the mag works...

[bleachit]

bah to the dead on xcore.. had one, palmers stab worked better.

level x is not an essential item.. just make sure you have an electro hopper capable of feeding faster than you shoot.

[Jaan]

I got my (classic) 68Automag working perfectly on CO2. It works most of the time with just an old Smart Parts expansion chamber mounted vertically and a bottom line with an anti siphon tank ... however, when it gets cold I might still have a few problems with the valve itself getting cold, and once in the winter I froze up the gun. If you've ever seen the inside of one of those expansion chambers you'ld know what a feat this was. Right now I play with a remote and no matter how fast I shoot or how cold it is I don't have a problem.

[Hotshot33610]

I would go with the X-chamber and anti-siphon. Essentially, all a mag consists of is a regulator with a bolt inside a tube. I have heard of many people having problems with double-regulated mags, because it starves the valve.

[Boydster]

bah to the dead on xcore.. had one, palmers stab worked better.

level x is not an essential item.. just make sure you have an electro hopper capable of feeding faster than you shoot.

Sure it works better, but it also costs 3 times more. And double regualated systems cause problems.

And the level 10 bolt is not only used to prevent misfeeds. Sometimes the stock bolt just smacks the ball so hard it breaks. Remember, the LX goes slow and then it speeds up. It will not hit the ball with near enough force to break it.

[bleachit]

sure a palmers causes problems.. and costs more. but a Level 10 isnt needed to run the gun.. has a lot of issues itself and costs a good chunk of change.

[Boydster]

I know it's not required, that's why they call it an upgrade...

[ShooterJM]

Couple things.

First, the mag can run on co2 you just have to keep liquid out of the gun.

There are many ways to do this. You can run a vert bottle, a remote, anti siphon tank, expansion chamber or a reg.

I ran a vert bottle for years and it worked 90% of the time.

Dual regged systems do not ALWAYS cause problems. If they're set up improperly they can starve the reg, but as long as the first reg is adusted properly there won't be an issue. I used a sideline stabalizer for quite some time with zero issues and my gun never went liquid.

It all comes down to what you want to spend, how you want to play and what you want your rig to look like.