ATT..X VALVE USERS SHOOTING 260 or less

[RAZORXMAG]

Just wondering what setup you have on your level 10...to get consistent firing out of my gun, i have to use the short spring, wondering how soft on paint the short spring is? do i have to worry?? actually i bought a rtpro tune up kit, and am using that spring, it is just a hair longer than the shortest one in the level 10 kit...am thinking about modding my middle spring, but i cant get good results unless the spring is short, any opinions are welcome, i have to shoot at 260 or less, i have currently 2 lx shims and the #2 carrier, with the rt pro spring. thanx

[Dayspring]

I ran the red spring on an indoor 260fps limit for quite a while.

Red Spring
no shims
I forget the carrier but that doesn't matter, as each oring is different.

[RAZORXMAG]

why no shims, maybe that is why i cant use the bigger springs?

[Dayspring]

Shims alter where the bolt will start to vent, it has no relationship to FPS. Spring and oring/carrier do.

[RAZORXMAG]

so if you have no shims, it vents right away, making the tension from the spring more effective if using the shorter spring right?

[Dayspring]

No, adding shims will make it vent quicker than if there are no shims.

[funeralplanner]

Right, and right again.

[Tunaman]

Only certain markers will chrono under 260 with the red spring. Most will need the gold smallest spring to get that low. Start with that one.

[Alpha]

I try to tune my markers with the lowest spring. This way, I feel that I'm adjusting velocity more from the regulator then from the spring. In doing this, I'm putting more air into the marker, which helps me get a bit more reactivity out of my ULT. Makes the trigger all the more crisper and... well it shoots full auto peaking at 17bps.

[RAZORXMAG]

How

How do u tune to the lowest spring?? what is you marker set up, how many shims are you using? And once it is tuned, is it still able to shoot fragile paint?? dollar bill test passes??

[Tunaman]

You cant have it all at the same time. Either the short spring for the under 260 crowd or the long spring for the dudes with fragile paint. MOST people wont be able to tune the L10 so that it doesnt crush a dollar bill. By using the longest spring you will sacrifice a great deal of reliability. Use the middle spring for great resaults above 260fps.

[spsantos]

You cant have it all at the same time. Either the short spring for the under 260 crowd or the long spring for the dudes with fragile paint. MOST people wont be able to tune the L10 so that it doesnt crush a dollar bill. By using the longest spring you will sacrifice a great deal of reliability. Use the middle spring for great resaults above 260fps.

Nice you mentioned that, earlier today I went tweaking my gun, the spring I had was the longest one, i swapped it for the RED spring that, by the way, was now just 2 or mm shorter than the longest one (i shooted about 10000 paint with the bigger one), had now problem so far, the gun is a bit more stable at the chrony, and I guess that over time, anyone that's using the longest spring will change to the middle one.

[RAZORXMAG]

what about the shortest one, need to know...hard to believe nobody shoots the smallest spring...there are alot of fields that require 260 or less...

[Alpha]

Like i said, smallest spring rools. My barrel cleans out nicely, so when I chop a ball, it usually not an issue. I play recball. Its not like I'm playing a high stakes tourney and if I chop a ball that means I'm out and my team loses. Why does everything have to be so performance-esque? Bleh..

With a shorter spring, I can put more air into the marker. I get better reactivity, and blah blah blah. Its like going on a spyder, and putting in a shorter spring, but increasing the regulator flow. More air efficiency too.

[lostrock]

I use the short spring when i have to crony down to 250 for night play with no problems.