everybody says you cant run co2 through an RT valve, but Ive been doin it for years. Id like for someone to explain to me why people say its bad for the gun. I dont get it.
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i really dont know...
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Because at the rate that the RT valve recharges, it will suck liquid CO2 into the valve before it has a chance to phase change into a gas and flood it. The orings were not designed for CO2 and will crack and leak.Comment
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You can run CO2 through an RT valve.
You can smear yourself with catfish bait and jump into the shark tank at the zoo, too.
The issue here is not whether you CAN or not....it's, why would you want to.
The core of the problem is that the RT wants an input of 800ish psi. CO2, in a marker size tank/setup just cannot provide it at high rates of fire even if you could keep all the liquid out. I regularly hook my xvalve via remote to a non-siphon bulk tank of CO2 for testing and troubleshooting purposes. I haven't had it apart in over a year and it's going strong.
There is nothing magical about CO2. But it will NOT power an RT valve succesfully. Trust me. I don't even think CO2 powers classic valves satisfactorily.Comment
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Not only is this true but i heard from the person that gave me my rt that rt's use left over gas (or something like that) to push the trigger forward again after each shot, and CO2 is not able to do this.Originally posted by DayspringComment
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Not true at all.
A classic mag and RT mag BOTH reset the trigger by using gas to push the on/off pin down into the sear. The classic mag uses regulated air to do it (~450-psi) and the RT does it with 800+psi. That's the RT kick you feel. They changed the air routing in the gun to recharge so quickly, the RT kick was a side-effect of this new air path in the valve.
Originally posted by goforbrokeComment
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Yessss ... I seem to remember something about the RT standing for "Reactive Trigger" ...Originally posted by goforbrokeComment
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Both the classic and RT valves use air to reset the trigger. The reason for the RT kick is that the RT valves use twice the amount of pressure to reset the trigger than the classic does.
Has nothing to do with CO2 being able to do it or not.Comment
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rt as in rt pro or rt valve does not stand for reactive trigger, it means "retro valve", your thinking like the tippmann rtYessss ... I seem to remember something about the RT standing for "Reactive Trigger" ...Comment
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No, I'm thinking this ...Originally posted by agdkicks
Now if that guy isn't AGG I don't know who is
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so if i have an anti siphon co2 tank, a expansion chamber , and a huge bag of o rings , i can use my co2 tank on my x valve mag when n2 is not avalalbe ?
my ao feedback http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=167490Comment
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No.Comment
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y ? my ao feedback http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=167490Comment
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Ha ha ha! Was that a poster made exclusively for Provincetown paintball fields?Originally posted by JaanNow if that guy isn't AGG I don't know who is
Is the deal with the RT solely that it recharges faster? Obviously, the sear is set using pressure on a Classic, but it, what, resets faster (alongside the recharging of the whole action) because it has 3000 psi going into it?
The Classic I've got (actually, pre-Classic) says that it regulates 3000 psi down, right on the valve. I imagine everything goes on after regulation, though.Comment
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The orings in the gun weren't made for CO2, and it doesn't matter how much anti-liquid stuff you put in between the tank and valve, it will take a few shots and then start to freeze up.
Why not take AGD's word on it and NOT use it?
Originally posted by Soopa Villain17Comment
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