X-Valve, Is it worth it?

[DyNo!]

I was at the field yesterday and I shot a mag with an X-valve and ULE trigger.

I really want this upgrade for my mag.

Even after the discount I'm spending $270 something dollars.

For this price, I could buy an ION.

I have a DM4 but I just want a fast back-up gun.

I have had a level 10 kit in the past but I didn't know how to tune it.

I was a newb and I had loads of trouble.

I know the mag better now and I think I can handle it.

So, is the X-valve and ULE worth $270?

I will gladly buy it if I can get it to work %100 with no bolt stick or chops...

If it can do that, the ION will require much more maintenance...

Any comments or suggestions?

[DyNo!]

Desperate bump...

[blykins]

You dont happen to be in Georgia do you?

[jacobeid]

X-valve is 100% worth it. It's fast, light and just amazing. I shot my almost 100% upped classic mag the other day with a classic valve. Then I put my new x-valve in it and I was shooting so much faster and easier. Also, my mag wasn't as back heavy anymore (The only reason it is is because of my intelliframe). You shouldn't have any trouble tuning it, since so many people here are willing to help and it should be a simple process.

You don't have to buy one for $270. Get one used for $200 or less that will work just fine and have already been tuned and broken in. This would solve your tuning problem. Actually come to think of it, my buddy Alpha is trying to sell his black x-valve so he can get a reverse one. I believe he is selling it fairly cheap, but you might want to PM him. His Level 10 and ULT is perfectly tuned, so don't worry about tuning it, and it you ever do have to, he will help. He's a great guy.

In all reality, get an x-valve. You will love it.

[Spacemanvic]

Desperate bump...

Well, yesterday, I got to take my emag out for a bit. Xvalve worked flawlessly, and the level 10 never chopped, 500+ rounds fired. It didnt skip, chuff, or stick. Took about 2 hours total in tuning the level 10.

IF you can get an xvalve and ULT for $270, dont think twice: BUY IT! I spent $250 for a used xvalve, but I wanted to keep my classic valve, now I have enough parts for a backup mech gun.

I cant really comment on the ION, I have only test fired it a few times(7-8), but just never liked the feel of it. Trigger was wobly, body felt nice, but it kinda felt toy like (NOT LOOKING FOR , just telling him what my impressions were). I've had my mag, in different flavors, for 10+ years. Im used to it, im comfortable with it, I like it, I dont have to spend alot of time maintaining it. It's the right marker for me. The ION just didnt feel "right".

Your best bet would be to find a shop or field that will allow you to try out the ion. If you like it, then spend the $$ there, if not, look for a used Xvalve, spend a little less (you can get a base ION for around $285, but then you have to spend a little more for ups to get it set up right). Some people are already selling their ions, which makes me kinda wonder.

You gotta cut your way through the hype, from ion owners AND from mag owners. Find what works for you young grasshopper

[spyderkiller]

Shot my RT mag with lvl 10 in a tourny yesterday. Put a case through it without a single break...yep, no break at all, even down the barrel. That's how soft it is on paint. My teammates both broke, one with an angel and another with a VISION impulse. Guys all around me were watching in amazement as I put my finger down the feedneck and pulled the trigger and still had a finger left. I haven't shot a ULT, but from what I hear, that's worth it too. I'm going to have to get my RT drilled so I can install one. Anyway, yes, it's worth it.

[DyNo!]

You dont happen to be in Georgia do you?

Yep you're the guy...

I lost your email addy...

It got lost in the washing machine...

Email me at [email protected]

Edit: jacobeid IM sent...

[DyNo!]

Also, I have a pre-set tank.

I heard that the X-valve needs an external regulator or regulated tank.

I don't want to shell out the $$$ (200-300 bucks) to get another tank or reg.

Do I have any other options?

[blykins]

Yep you're the guy...

I lost your email addy...

It got lost in the washing machine...

Email me at [email protected]

Edit: jacobeid IM sent...

wow small world. Well yeah the xvalve is worth it, and add the ULT to that and its def. worth it, the trigger is very light and sweetspotting it is great.
An adjustable tank is not necessary, but if you want to adjust the max ROF then adjustable is the way to go. Like on my maxflo, if i put it at about 600psi, it wont bounce, but if i put it at say 1000psi, it bounces like crazy. I keep at about 900 b/c its still fast and i can 1shot easy too, 1000psi is kinda nuts. With a preset screw-in tank, itll be about 800psi(some arent as accurate as others), which is good and the trigger will be reactive and the max ROF will probbaly be in the low 20's which is plenty IMO.

[Vex]

Also, I have a pre-set tank.

I heard that the X-valve needs an external regulator or regulated tank.

I don't want to shell out the $$$ (200-300 bucks) to get another tank or reg.

Do I have any other options?

Your preset will work with the Xvalve. It should be preset to 800 or 850.

[DyNo!]

800psi is what it is pre-set at...

I think I'll be ok, right?

I'll look into getting a used X-valve...

[blykins]

800psi is what it is pre-set at...

I think I'll be ok, right?

I'll look into getting a used X-valve...

Yeah a preset will be fine. If you get used, id go ahead and get an RT parts kit and replace the o-rings in the valve just to have a fresh set in there.

[Irish Deth]

Ion

As to the ION, I've shot one and talked to owners. Shoots nice, very cheap to obtain . I found it no better (17 bps max setting) than an RT, let alone an X-Valve. ION is new, unknown reliability. Go with the x-valve - it's very reliable. The lvl 10 is easy to install, just follow the instructions - they look complicated, but they're not.

[Andrew Cunje]

I own both a Mech X-Valve and an Ion

Let me start by saying i own both a mech x-valve and an ion.

The X-valve mech mag tha ti buitl from teh ground up is what i shoot to this day . Its light fast and EXTREMELY accurate with my stiffi carbon fibre.

If you already have upgraded your barrel and such on your mag then the choice seems simple to me go with teh x-vavle on ur mag.

The Ion is very impressive due to the fast rates of fire. BUT...in its stock condition for woodsball it is highly inaccurate the eye still enables it to chop quite a few if you dont have a forcefed hopper...im running a reloader and it hates it...the gun feels cheap and is actually heavier than my mag with empty tank. whats really cool is you can put an autococker QEV inplace fo the front banjo fitting and lower your dwell to 7-15 instead of the stock 55 or whatever it is. It also increases your rate of fire to 20-22 bps in doing this.

OVER ALL I say mag over ion in the long run, ion is just fun to waste paint and chop paintwith while it stands still being horribly inaccurate

~Andrew

[craltal]

Let me start by saying i own both a mech x-valve and an ion.

you can put an autococker QEV inplace fo the front banjo fitting and lower your dwell to 7-15 instead of the stock 55 or whatever it is. It also increases your rate of fire to 20-22 bps in doing this.

~Andrew

um, the QEV allows it to be more efficient during the firing cycle, not increase the ROF. The boards that the Ion's come with are capped at 17 bps. Unless you spring $200 for a predator board you are not going to be able to shoot an Ion above 17 bps.