pro classic

[wilsg]

ok so i am fairly new to paintball and i own a brass eagle maurader( i know they arent the best but it was the easiest way to get into the sport it was only 15 bucks new!) so i was wondering if i were to get a pro classic automag can it run on co2? and if it can should it be antisiphoned? also this may sound extremely stupid but how do you cock an automag? i dont see a cocking rod anywhere.
thank you for your time

[Stoble]

1. yes a classic can run on Co2, but may freeze up at times (cold weather, or firing alot). 2. Anti siphon should definately be used, maybe even with an expansion chamber.
3. you don't manually cock an automag, when you air it up it cocks

[Aslan]

It doesn't like CO2...some people say it works fine if you vertically mount it or run it remote...some say an anit-siphon will work...but if it's anything like mine, you'll want to switch to HPA/nitro.

The gun is different than a blowback...you can't dryfire it like you could with your Marauder by cocking and pulling the trigger. When you air it up...the trigger pops into position and then you can fire it...you degas it and the trigger goes limp. It's pretty cool...I'm new to mags myself...but so far I've liked what I've seen.

[wilsg]

oh ok thanks but if i pput an expansion chamber on there then will i have two lines? one running from the asa to the xchamber and one running from the x cahmber to the valve?
any other techinical info on mags and how they work is appreciated!

[Jaan]

Some people have a HPA fetish, but the classic 'Mag was made in a time when everyone used CO2 and runs fine with it as long as you keep liquid out of the valve. The best way to do it is to use a remote and an expansion chamber. If you want to keep the tank on the gun use an anti syphon and expansion chamber.

Yes, you'll need to run two lines, one from the tank to the expansion chamber and the other from the expansion chamber to the valve. A lot of people put a quick disconnect on the line from the expansion chamber to the valve so you can get the valve out easily. Minimags come with one already.

If you're wicked cheap, what you can do is run a CO2 bottle vertically in the place where you would put an expansion chamber and the take a long hose looped around in a circle several times going to the valve. This is cheap and works well. You used to see people with this set up all the time back in the day.

When you gas up the gun, hold the trigger back. At least, that's what Tom Kaye used to tell you in the old video that used to come with the gun.

[wilsg]

im sorry but i dunno what a quick disconnect is and what it means to "get the valve out easily"

[NoForts4Me]

This is how I run mine, which is basically what everyone is talking about:

<a href="http://www.jayloo.com/files/pics/26000/Mag2Small.jpg"> <img src="http://www.jayloo.com/files/pics/26000/Mag2Small_rs.jpg" width="512" height="386"> </img></a>

The angled ASA on the Intelliframe feeds the expansion chamber, the SS Line runs from the vertical ASA to the quick disconnect, which is connected to the 90 deg fitting on the valve. You can just disconnect the SS line at the disconnect, and slide/twist the valve out for easy removal.

I run a 20oz anti-siphon tank, and don't have any problems with CO2 unless the temps hit 40 or below. Then I just can't shoot fast, but it still works. CO2 isn't as evil as many make it out to be. I'm sure it's not as good as compressed air, but it works fine in most cases on Classics.

[wilsg]

awesome thanks for the info
i live in florida near tampa so we barely ever even hit 40 degrees
do you think i should get a palmers stabilizer so when i do get more money to upgrade to nitro ill already have a regulator?

[Jaan]

There is a regulator already built into the gun so adding another regulator will not help, and often hurts the performance. The Palmer is good and it would help keep liquid out of the gun but is overkill. If you go to HPA then the tank itself will have a regulator. By the way, you'll need at least 800 psi output from the tank or the 'Mag won't work. Either way, you don't need one.

[wilsg]

ok well i just got an oppurtunity to make some money so i think i will get nitro. i hear that crossfire makes good tanks so should i get a 68/4500 fixed or 68/4500 low pressure. i sont know much about nitro is 800 high or low pressure?

[athomas]

Get a high output tank. Low output tanks are generally only around 450psi out. The mag valve requires 800psi or higher from the tank to operated properly.

[DarkMag722]

You dont need to cock the gun as soon as you but in the Co2 you guns trigger pull come out and your ready to shoot. And your gun can opperate on Co2 but I dont no what anti thing is can you tell me?

[Aleis]

ofcourse HPA is better, but i find it funny that people claim that Classic mags don't work well when you use CO2, As this was the only air source availible when they came out. and they seemed to work back then.

[sbpyro]

[Aslan]

similar question

I've tried CO2 horizontally mounted with an ANS expansion chamber...froze the valve after about 10-25 shots...or 9 real fast. Some people say they use an anti-siphon and a remote coil and that works good...especially if you add the expansion chamber into the mix. I think the manual off of the AGD website recommends HPA. I thought it said "not" to use an anti-siphon when I read it...I'll have to check again.

I've been wrestling with the same question you are regarding taks to buy. I've heard that getting 850-1000psi into the valve makes it work best with the most responsive trigger. However, most preset tanks seem to be set at 750-850psi output. I heard Crossfire, Nitro Duck, and Centerflag make good tanks...but I don't think any of them make presets that push >850psi... Some people have talked about adjustable outputs...but those run $400-$500 and I don't even know if you can set them that high...I'm not even sure at that pressure if it would be safe in a macroline or microline or steel braided hose.

I'll keep looking around, maybe get some feedback here...see what happens.