Remote to valve w/ CO2

[casimer]

sorry if this topic has been beat to death - couldn't find a search for this BB

I'm picking-up a classic mag and hoping to run CO2 via remote. I'd prefer to route directly to the valve, but haven't seen this set-up for either HPA or CO2. Is there some reason that you shouldn't connect the remote line in this way - aside from liquid CO2 contamination?

Has anyone run an inline regulator, at the pin valve, w/ such a set-up ? - how's the performance been ?

I'm thinking that the combination of the reg and remote should handle any liquid in the system.


thanks - new to mags

* I know about the benefits of HPA, just very inconvenient in my region.

[LegumeOfTerror]

ive done it many a time...

a remote connected directly to the valve works fine. all the line gives the gas plenty of room to expand. the reg realy isnt nessicary, the mag has an internal one already. the way my mag is set up, i have quik disconects on the valve and the ASA, so i just pop off the line and slide the remote on rather quickly so its easy to switch from one set up to the next. here are some pictures showing my setup. i know, the remote if anceint, so a premptive "shut-up" to all who would mock it.

bottom line set up

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a248/LegumeOfTerror/CA1KEL5B.jpg

quik disconnect

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a248/LegumeOfTerror/CAVEDS9F.jpg

remote set up

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a248/LegumeOfTerror/CA6J0VFK.jpg

hope this helps!

-Chris The Almighty

[casimer]

a remote connected directly to the valve works fine. all the line gives the gas plenty of room to expand. the reg realy isnt nessicary, the mag has an internal one already. the way my mag is set up...

thanks for the pics ! - I'd probably run something very similar.

So there's no appreciable advantage to 2-stage regulation w/ the mag ?

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Can someone confirm the following specs - I'd picked these up from this board and other reading.

recommended input pressure ~800psi
operating pressure ~450psi
minimum input pressure to cycle the action ~600 psi

[LegumeOfTerror]

well, its really 3 stage if you add an inline reg. you also have the tanks regulator, which on CO2 the output is set to 800psi i believe. more regulation is just a waste as far as i know. i never bothered with an inline on my mag, and achieved pretty decent consistancy and whatnot. but, if you feel compeled to use a reg, or someone more knowledgable than i (haha... like thats happening...) tells you otherwise, id recomend a Custom Productsreg.i use one on my impule and it lighter and works just as well as the maxflow it originoly had. anyways, theres mytwo cents. maybe even three...

[lamingo]

I until recently ran a remote directly to my vavle with a quick disconnect. The only thing i disliked about this setup is that the 90* fitting on my valve would move when i moved the gun but if you dont mind that then it works great.just gotta make sure you dont let the fitting do circles or it my pop off creating a not so fun situation but i dont think that would ever be a problem.

[casimer]

thanks guys

L.O.T. - I'm not necessarily pro-reg, but you know the conventional wisdom re: multistage air systems. I figured that there's some reason that they make these -PPS Sideline. I'll have to test this for myself; I honestly haven't enough experience w/ mags to predict how they'll behave w/ remote CO2.

[craltal]

the valve on a CO2 tank is just that, no regulator involved at all so you'd only be double regulating. HPA bottles have regulators so that is when it would be triple regulation.

You will probably be better off not running a regulator anyway.

As for the Sideline PPS reg, the best performance out of one of those occurred when Craig Palmer gutted the internals of the mag valve and used one of those as the only regulator on the mag. Don't get me wrong, PPS makes great products, but you won't need to add a reg.

[Pacifist_Farmer]

I run a similar rig to Lamingo

my remote attaches directly to the valve via quick-connect, the elbow I use for the valve/male fitting is a stationary one so no spinning. I wrap 2 coils around the feed neck/tube to avoid pulling on the quick-connect.

I have run both CO2 and HPA through the same macro remote and have never had a problem, and see no need for any additional regs or expansion chambers anywhere in the system.

* I don't shoot fast enough to worry about starving the valve, if you are really fast on the trigger this is an issue you may have to face. Then again I have never seen it, and have only heard rumors.