x-valve with co/2

[pointman]

Very new to Mags but love them.Can I use co/2 with the x-valve.co-2 is the only propellent source we have around here.Or I should ask can you use co-2 with any of the mag valves?Ins and outs?TKS

[Resurection]

Far as I know, any mag will work with CO2, but they all definately work better with compressed air.

Where are you? No scuba/diving shops around? For about $100-150 you could geta scuba tank with a fill station and do your own HPA refills and only have to go get the scuba filled once a month or less depending on how much you play. It might be a worthwhile investment and you could charge others in your area/field for HPA fills. :)

[Asym]

CO2 shouldn't be used in an xvalve. Internal pressure of the Xvalve is right around where CO2 makes its phase change from liquid to a gas. When the temperature is cooler or the tank and the valve get cooler from shooting CO2 chances are even better for liquid to get in the valve and freeze it up.

Classic valves which include the mini mag, and rental valves all will work with CO2 but HPA is stilll recomended. I used CO2 for years on a classic valve with almost no problems you just have to keep the liquid CO2 out of the valve. I used a regulator to keep the liquid CO2 out of my mag, other options are expansion chamber, remote, or anti-siphon tubes in your CO2 tank.

[sumorai]

Get a classic valve, an anti-syphon tank, and an expansion chamber hooked up you an verical ASA (you can get this from airgun.com, screws into the rail where the foregrip goes and has a screw in tube port).

[pointman]

co/2 in automags

Hey thanks guys!! awsome help.How about the retro valve they say the retro valve creates it's own heat as it cycles.I know air is the best way to go but can't do right now.Doug

[sumorai]

The Retro valve and the X Valve are pretty much the same thing. The only difference is that the X Valve is made entirely of aluminum so it's light-weight.

[Alpha]

No mag will do well on CO2. Classics will function, but they'll do better on comp. air.

Its a fact that Tom Kaye was the first in the paintball world to use compressed air/nitro on his guns.

Nitro was made for mags.

[Head knight of Ni]

DO NOT use CO2 in an Xvalve. Use only compressed air or N2.

[sumorai]

DO NOT use CO2 in an Xvalve. Use only compressed air or N2.

N2 (Nitro/Nitrogen) = HPA (High Pressure Air) = CA (Compressed Air)

They're all the same. Though, if you want to be precise, it's 78% Nitrogen.

[scrumpy]

The way I understand it is: If you use c02 with an RT type valve (x, emag, emax, RT, you get the point) it will take in liquid co2 no matter what - you may get a few shots under 300 fps but the velocity can be erratically hot and shoot over 400fps.

[sumorai]

The way I understand it is: If you use c02 with an RT type valve (x, emag, emax, RT, you get the point) it will take in liquid co2 no matter what - you may get a few shots under 300 fps but the velocity can be erratically hot and shoot over 400fps.

Even if that is true, it's still not safe. You just don't use CO2 with a mag if you can help it. As someone else on the forums already said, "compressed air was made for mags."

[mobsterboy]

The way I understand it is: If you use c02 with an RT type valve (x, emag, emax, RT, you get the point) it will take in liquid co2 no matter what - you may get a few shots under 300 fps but the velocity can be erratically hot and shoot over 400fps.

Sweet....Im definitely picking up a cheap emag or rt valve just for the fact that i can shoot 400 fps. dont bother to lecture me, i know its dangerous, and i wont prob play a game with it, but it would be fun to do it

[sumorai]

Sweet....Im definitely picking up a cheap emag or rt valve just for the fact that i can shoot 400 fps. dont bother to lecture me, i know its dangerous, and i wont prob play a game with it, but it would be fun to do it

[Head knight of Ni]

N2 (Nitro/Nitrogen) = HPA (High Pressure Air) = CA (Compressed Air)

They're all the same. Though, if you want to be precise, it's 78% Nitrogen.

I know, its just that compressed air and N2 are the only workable gases. BLK N2, BLK Compressed air or air through a compressor with humidity filters are the only power sources that should ever be used in an RT type valve.

[automikey]

for a pistol

Could you use co2 with an x-valve if the rate of fire was slow, like 3-4 shots/second? Say, for use in a fixed-barrel micromag pistol with 3.5 oz co2 tank, bottomline mounted at an angle? The weight difference between valves is substantial on this marker.